Drs using a "psychotic" diagnosis as an excuse for everything.
Hi. This may be a absolute pointless post as I am aware this may not be 100% real and have reasoned with myself about some of the "events" which i have overreacted about, but I still believe that there is something else causing it.
I have seen 3 people.
One misinterpretted what i said and past it on to the psychatrist.
Psychatrist didnt even ask or look or even talk to me about it, he just said it wasnt real.
A diff doctor didnt even listen to my first sentence before dismissing it as "you have side effects effects of a med and your boyfriend copies you". wtf?
I know that "dr shopping" is a common sign of when a person isnt believing it to be something.
However, Regardless of whether it was real or not, i would like a test to be done and a dr to actually examine me properly. And then when if it is nothing, I will believe them more.
But because i have a diagnosis of psychosis then apparently I dont need a test or to be examined because what I say is full of ***** anyways?
that's called "diagnostic overshadowing" it's something that happens a lot when someone has a mental health issue... basically anything you say, ever, is taken by doctors to be part of or due to the thing that you are already diagnosed with...
I think that Rethink have a leaflet on it with advise on their website.
Oh yeh I'm reading the leaflet now, this is exactly the sort of stuff i was looking for I know it makes me look more "delusional" but the dr saying "its nothing" is literally based on having a psychosis diagnosis. How can they say its nothing without even looking/testing/ or even listening to all I have to say? bahh.
xxx
Surely you can request whatever it is you need regardless of what your diagnosis is? Maybe you could see a different doctor or keep requesting? Or even make a complaint?
"Its not how long a star shines, what is remembered is the brightness of the light"
What is it you feel you need to be tested for? I think some doctors are reluctant to perform tests on something that they believe to be delusional, incase it reinforces the patient's belief that it's real. But if it's something medical that could be real by Earth-world standards then of course you should be tested for it and I would, if I were you, push until you get the tests you need.
I had a friend whose doctor kept ignoring her internal pains because she had a history of mental health problems (even though she'd been stable for a while) until they got so incapacitating that she was finally sent for tests, and unfortunately it turned out that she had a serious medical problem.
It really is, it makes me so angry at the health service in general.
Apparently I felt sorry for Ami, so I manifested echzma within myself, just to help Ami cope. They have crossed a line, and I just do not know what to say without getting angry.
Even if someone is totally delusional, they should be tested anyways, as even delusional people catch normal illnesses etc.
So yea, apparently I felt sorry for Ami, and my body conjured up an illness.
Thank god they didn't know I am mentally unwell too, or we'd have probably been slapped with a shared psychosis label.
Bastards.
On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
diagnostic overshadowing is a common occurace. It happens with physical illness as well as mental. Sometimes it can be hard for a doctor to know what the symptoms of one disorder end in order to know which are different or new.
Doctors are only human afterall. sometimes it's just a case of seeing a idffeerent doctor. Other times you can take someone with you to help get your point across. But there are leaflets and information booklets on the topic and Rethink has a campaign at the moment about it (though I think it's on hold right now for their jury and election campaigns)
that's called "diagnostic overshadowing" it's something that happens a lot when someone has a mental health issue... basically anything you say, ever, is taken by doctors to be part of or due to the thing that you are already diagnosed with...
This happens to me all the time
Everthing I say is 'due to bpd and will pass'. I could have the flu and it'll be down to my bloody bpd gah!!
Sorry that was totally irrelevent
*hugs to you Ami and Dan*
Yep, I've been dealing with that since late 08 when I fell ill, doctors don't take you at all seriously & put it down to your MH problems, there couldn't possibly be anything medically wrong because your mind is the cause!!!
Pathetic.
Ridiculous.
Infuriating.
& well, yeah.
I really hope you can get tests sorted out & peace of mind that everything is okay, or, some answers!
I hate this too. I have had a ton of migraines, stomach pain, dizziness, bad memory, and other such things and it is never looked into. Even if it is mental health related, they need to rule other stuff out first, and then figure out what part of your mental health is causing it! with me, they just say "oh it's stress" without ever taking me seriously, they don't even explain what is the psychological reason for it, assuming it even is psychological. if i've been stressed for years and years, there's something wrong! they finally did one test but didn't even follow up with me, just left a message saying it was normal. and that was after years of arguing and then they still didn't even try to figure out what it is that's wrong. so i know how frustrating that is. i do think you should try another doctor, you have a right to be tested for actual medical problems. having psychosis does not mean you cannot be physically ill. thing is, with me, not being tested actually INCREASES my paranoia that people are hurting me/hiding stuff. So it would actually help at least in my case to be tested to assure me that it is psychological.
Yep I get that all the time, Doctors can be so mean & insulting, I head bang before & during sleep (this is known as Rhythmic Movement Disorder) it's a Parasomnia, but when I went to my first GP he laughed in my face, I went last week to see my current GP he did listen but just said "I think your mentally disturbed" they seem to connect it to my mental health or though it has absolutely nothing to do with it, it's so frustrating so I understand how you feel, maybe you should see a different doctor *hugs* sorry I can't offer any other help just wanted to let you know your not alone xxx :)
I would suggest two courses of action. Contact your local PALS (details can be found via your nhs trusts' webpages of via NHSDirect) and let them know what is happening. They can act as an advocacy service on your behalf and can also open an investigation into what is going on - in many cases, this is enough to give the appropriate kick up the rear that a service needs. If not, they can open a complaint for you and follow it up with you.
You can also contact Mind, who also have an advocacy service available. This is someone that can go with you to the appointments and ensure you get what you went for (a proper chance and to be taken seriously).
Diagnostic over-shadowing is far too common. I do not know what you are wanting to be diagnosed, or what your specific issue is, but it is a Drs job to pay attention to what you are saying and diagnose appropriately. Not to just assume before you have said more than hello. I know what the effects of over-shadowing are like. I get it frequently with my diabetes and also with my own mh issues, so can appreciate your frustration.
Go back to the Dr, either with or without an advocate and state clearly what it is you would like from the meeting. To have a specific issue, pain or otherwise looked into etc - It may help to have this written down. Have any question you have answered before you leave the clinic. If you feel you are not being heard, state clearly 'I do not think you are listening to what I am saying...' and explain it again if need be. If they still do not listen to you, or pay you due attention, put in a complaint.
*hugs*
Best of luck.
Roiben x
If the Human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we wouldn't.
wtf?
I know it makes me look more "delusional" but the dr saying "its nothing" is literally based on having a psychosis diagnosis. How can they say its nothing without even looking/testing/ or even listening to all I have to say? bahh. 
