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Old 12-07-2012, 09:46 PM   #161
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Im just wondering about the logistics of it.

eg: if a member creates a thread not thinking it fits in and it gets flagged for the mods, but one of us isnt on for 24 hours or whatever.. do we then delete 24 hours worth of posts to recreate the thread?

good question... there no way of sort of moving posts? or would there be a chronology issue there?

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:51 PM   #162
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I think what's been suggested is that people could send in suggestions to the mods and then a few could be picked or something?
It still sounds rather contrived. All because some people don't want posters to be able to delete a thread? One that can be made by someone else if they deem it necessary?

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good question... there no way of sort of moving posts? or would there be a chronology issue there?
I think moving posts takes quite a lot of time, I don't think it's a simple case of pressing a button.

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:56 PM   #163
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A question that I have been wondering is if Katy decided tomorrow to delete the Uni Student Thread for her own personal reason another thread could be made straight away called Uni Student Thread take 2.

I can't see an issue with that so is their one and I'm thus totally missing the point?




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Old 12-07-2012, 10:00 PM   #164
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This is what happens on other forums, like TSR - they can only have like 10,000 posts per thread.



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Old 12-07-2012, 10:53 PM   #165
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Another member PM'ed this idea to me which I thought was pretty awesome but they didn't want to post it themselves.

Also I had an idea for the uni student thread- how about a 'communuty account' is created with a username and email not linked to any memeber and then community threads could be made by this account and not deleted at the request of the thread starter as they'd be owned by the community as such. (Which I think should be like a mod access only account). Yes its not perfect and new threads would have to be created but the fresh start for the uni thread may be a good thing and help encourage new posters and perhaps be made to coincide with the start of people returning to uni?

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Old 12-07-2012, 11:07 PM   #166
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Another member PM'ed this idea to me which I thought was pretty awesome but they didn't want to post it themselves.

Also I had an idea for the uni student thread- how about a 'communuty account' is created with a username and email not linked to any memeber and then community threads could be made by this account and not deleted at the request of the thread starter as they'd be owned by the community as such. (Which I think should be like a mod access only account). Yes its not perfect and new threads would have to be created but the fresh start for the uni thread may be a good thing and help encourage new posters and perhaps be made to coincide with the start of people returning to uni?
I think that could be a really good idea, the new thread for the new year, I mean. And the account could be a positive.




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Old 12-07-2012, 11:16 PM   #167
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Devils advocate because it's well known I don't particularly like room threads and I'm not the only member/mod as we get new room threads reported semi regularly and we do lock them and that will continue to happen going forward.

If the mods are approached by member x to set up a thread and we decide against it and this will happen fairly frequently. What then?

The uni thread had had previous successors that hadn't worked thus if this situation had been in account a few years back there is a fair chance the uni thread would never have been made?

Secondly the uni thread is one thread so for this scheme to work we are to lock all threads and start them all again. That would include the safe room, the forever alone thread, the chatty chat thread, the bpd thread, the what films are you watching thread, the hero brigade, the baby support thread, the big pink sofa bed thread and so on.

Are members really willing for that to happen?




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Old 12-07-2012, 11:33 PM   #168
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I think that although the idea of community threads are a good idea, I don't think closing all the current threads to create a new one is a good course of action. Maybe it is something that could happen with future threads? But again how are you going to know if threads are going to be popular or not?



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Old 12-07-2012, 11:59 PM   #169
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What gives someone the right to close a creation made for others? I disagree. It should be a group decision.

School analogies are just fine. It works. It's the same principle of consultation and respect.

Because its their creation, they chose to make it and they can choose to delete it too.
I agree with Jodie. But I see that you dislike her school analogy. Alright, how about another one: Tim Berners Lee invented the world wide web. He gave it to the people to use, but he still "owns" the invention. If one day, Tim Berners Lee goes online, sees the amount of criminal activity that is happening online, using his creation, and says to himself, "wait a second, this isn't what I made this for, this has spiralled off in the wrong direction. I don't like it. I'm going to close the internet. I created it, so I'm making a decision to take it all back", do you not think there would be uproar? He may have invented it, but he can no longer claim to "own" it. The People own it. I think this is similar.

I'm not trying to make any suggestions as to how it should be "fixed", because it has been said many times already (communication). I just made the analogy because I don't feel that our view about why closing a community thread without public (not secret CT land) discussion prior to taking action was and always will be a problem is being understood/heard here.

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I think that although the idea of community threads are a good idea, I don't think closing all the current threads to create a new one is a good course of action. Maybe it is something that could happen with future threads? But again how are you going to know if threads are going to be popular or not?
Agreed with the bolded part. May be a good idea in theory, but nobody can know if something is going to take off or not. (maybe with some magic V4 technology far far off in the future that would allow to substitute an OP with a robot account message at request or something).

I'll shuffle off now and leave you all to it.

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Old 13-07-2012, 12:09 AM   #170
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I see what your saying with the analogy and I'm going to quote myself here as I haven't had an answer yet and I know there have only been a few posts since but:-

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A question that I have been wondering is if Katy decided tomorrow to delete the Uni Student Thread for her own personal reason another thread could be made straight away called Uni Student Thread take 2.

I can't see an issue with that so is their one and I'm thus totally missing the point?
Because if their isn't an issue and the thread got remade by another member mod whoever then surely that is a solution.

If their is an issue then when I know what it is I can have a think!!!!




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Old 13-07-2012, 12:09 AM   #171
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I dont know where i gave the impression that I didnt think there would be backlash, I didnt say that anywhere.I knew full well that people would freak out about it, its RYL I expect nothing less. I honestly think if youre upset about a thread closing you seriously need a reality check.I understand the point youre making but I dont agree and I dont think that some of the reactions to this are at all healthy. Perspective is greatly needed, I understand its a support network,but as I have said about a million times, its the thread starters choice what they do with their thread.




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Old 13-07-2012, 12:16 AM   #172
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Cam, I don't know if I am the only one who thinks this, but I cannot understand your sentence under your quote!



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Cam, I don't know if I am the only one who thinks this, but I cannot understand your sentence under your quote!
This!

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Old 13-07-2012, 12:19 AM   #174
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i think it may be a security issue, people may just feel more secure knowing the the thread couldn't just vanish randomly

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Old 13-07-2012, 12:20 AM   #175
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No it's probably true!!

What Im trying to say is it seems we are going round in circles trying to find a solution and yet providing a thread isn't locked or deleted by a moderator for modly reason then their is absolutely nothing stopping someone creating a new thread straight away. If people don't have an issue with this then surely this is the way forward.

If people do have an issue with this then what is the issue? As at the moment I don't really understand the issue and so I'm only seeing the negatives and reading the posts it seems like I'm not the only one struggling!!!




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i think it may be a security issue, people may just feel more secure knowing the the thread couldn't just vanish randomly
it has always been like that since RYL started though.





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Old 13-07-2012, 12:30 AM   #177
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Cam (sorry, I was going to quote the appropriate bit but I lost it), I completely see what you're saying with the idea of creating a substitute thread. In theory it should work perfectly. However, I (vaguely) remember somthing like that happening before: there was some problem with a thread (can't remember the reason) and basically it was substitutes with a replacement thread, but that replacement never took off, for whatever reason. Theoretically there shouldn't be any difference, but in reality, for some reason there is. Maybe the "spirit" of the thread is different, maybe it's weird/awkward/whatever to start taking where people left off because there is no such plae where they "left off" the conversation. Whatever the reason is, the replacement thread may or may not be the same comfortable place as the original. Which sounds silly, because it's an internet thread made of text, but the fact remains, that healthy or not, people do get attached to a thread/other place online, and may or may not accept a replacement.

Of course, I might be talking out of my arse and none of that is applicable here, so feel free to dispute the above with return arguments.

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Fair enough that makes sense to me but the suggestions that are currently being bandied around involve locking/deleting the current thread and creating a new one which is what I don't understand.




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Old 13-07-2012, 12:51 AM   #179
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As far as I can see, the conversation is not about what should be done to the current thread, but more along the lines of what went wrong, why people were upset, and what can be done to aoid said upset in the future in similar community threads in the future.
The current thread is fine. Except for the people who no longer feel comfortable posting there, but that's not something that can be fixed at this point, so discussion is mainly about avoiding this in the future.

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Another member PM'ed this idea to me which I thought was pretty awesome but they didn't want to post it themselves.

Also I had an idea for the uni student thread- how about a 'communuty account' is created with a username and email not linked to any memeber and then community threads could be made by this account and not deleted at the request of the thread starter as they'd be owned by the community as such. (Which I think should be like a mod access only account). Yes its not perfect and new threads would have to be created but the fresh start for the uni thread may be a good thing and help encourage new posters and perhaps be made to coincide with the start of people returning to uni?

This is one of the suggestions that I was thinking off! My bold mind!




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