Throughout history God has used children to accomplish His purpose. He has said "...a little child shall lead them" [Isaiah 11:6] and "do not let anyone look down on you because you are young" [1 Timothy 4:12] and "whoever does not accept the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it." [Mark 10:15].
It's actually phenomenal, and the world would be a much better place if there were more children who are that in tune with Christ's purpose for their lives.
So honestly, I don't see anything the least bit creepy about it...
Anything I could say to that would be removed for flaming.
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It's actually phenomenal, and the world would be a much better place if there were more children who are that in tune with Christ's purpose for their lives.
So honestly, I don't see anything the least bit creepy about it...
Bible humping nuts is what I'd call the folk on that video.
Last edited by Mrs Sam : 18-02-2008 at 02:25 PM.
Reason: removed flaming
can we keep this calm please, obviously everyone has different beliefs with regards to the program but that doesnt give anyone the right to flame another member because of their differing opinion to your own. we've had 2 pages of civil discussion without anyone being offended and it would be nice to keep it that way.
And the little blond boy just seemed so smart and articulate, and I think it's horrible to see so much potential channeled into something so wrong. I also really wanted to be able to talk with him, as I think he's capable of understanding so much, and I think that if he had the other side of the story he might be able to at least question his beliefs and make his own decisions.
Wrong in your opinion, yes. I think the problem isn't so much what he's being taught but the way in which it's done. You may not agree with what these people believe, and that's fine, no-one's asking you to. But they have every right to believe it and every right to teach their children about their beliefs and why they think these things. That really isn't the issue at all. Surely the real problem is the way that it's being taught to the kids, and the fact that they're being exploited and such. I agree with you that ideally, they would be taught to question their beliefs and eventually be able to make their own decisions. But this sort of behaviour would be wrong from parents of any belief system, including whatever it is that you believe to be right. It isn't a shame that his potential is being channelled into something 'wrong', it's a shame that he's being treated in such a way at all.
But yes, I do think that the way these kids were being treated was wrong, watching this made me so sad. It's also sad that so many people think this is what Christianity is about, because it isn't.
I can't help but wonder, though, if people would be quite so outraged if it wasn't Christianity - or religion in general - that these children were having drummed into them.
These children have been brainwashed. Baby bible bashers was a pretty awesome alliteration though.
Hm, you never see anyone but Evangelists doing these things... People complain about Catholics but I'd say if we've done anything right it's keep our children mostly normal ( ) Ever seen Jesus camp? These people are speaking in tongues... It's nuts and it gives me the heebie jeebies.
It could be some sort of working martyr for my soul searching cause.
Erm. I just. Yes. I have absolutely NOTHING against parents sharing their beliefs, my parents did it, then let me make my own decisions. What bothers me though, is that they all seem to be using their kids for their own gain/to 'repent' what they may have done.
I may be off the mark here, feel free to shoot me down, but did anyone else feel that Anna's dad seemed to scream 'CHILD ABUSER'. I know how HORRID that is. But, what he was saying, HOW he talked about his daughter and the whole bed sharing....Her thinking the sun shines out of his arse. His unwillingness to talk about charges? Sorry if that's like, out of line, but I sort of got that feeling.
I feel so sorry for Samuel, he HAS been brainwashed, I know it's what his father believes, but having a child so terrified of going to hell and being hurt, that's not right. Not in any stretch of the imagination.
Amy, yes I got that impression too. Buuut, I could just be jumping to conclusions. Hm. Either way, it's all wrong.
Emily, I get the picture you weren't just talking about evolution. And to be fair, people are still perfectly within their rights not to believe in evolution, there are even some scientists who don't. I may not agree, but they can believe it if they like. I still stand by what I said - the issue isn't what they believe at all :)
No, I wasn't just talking about evolution, I was just pointing out that at least some of it wasn't a matter of opinion. And as for the "scientists" who don't believe in evolution, I already addressed that in a thread in News and Debate.
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Yea, they are well out of line using young children in such a way. But having a go at a member's beliefs like that? You know nothing about that person.
After having followed this rather odd thread, I think I'll go off and watch it on You Tube now - good grief, it may be rather disturbing.
My bet is that someone's going to mention the "out of the mouths of babes" scripture, probably not far in. There are some evangelical Christians who take children preaching as one of the signs of the coming of the Rapture. I shall, of course, not flame them in such a public forum.
) Ever seen Jesus camp? These people are speaking in tongues... It's nuts and it gives me the heebie jeebies.
