Personally it's a huge complicated subject so i can't commit either way.
what do you think about it?
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I think its a personal choice, if someone is suffering with a terminal illness that makes every second of their life unbearable and they want to die then they should be allowed to.
However I reckon if it did become legal, it should be in a way that doesnt lead the way to suicide clinics for non terminal illness reasons...if that makes any sense.
But what about quality of life issues in non-terminal illnesses?
Say someone becomes paralysed, unable to move, care for themselves in anyway and wants to die? Their condition in itself isn't terminal, but if that person wanted me to assist them in their suicide I'd be happy to. I wouldn't want to live like that.
And what I find really interesting about all of this is that animals are regularly "put out of their misery". I find it odd that we can be so humane towards creatures, yet can force humans to live in excruciating pain and suffering.
Personally I plan to top myself at the first sign of me becoming old and decrepit, I hate the thought of my own body becoming a prison.
I am actually for Euthanasia given the right circumstances but then again I am a vet student and see it everyday in animals so that may have some factor in my thoughts. There are a few issues though like it is often someone else deciding whether someone should live or not as the patient isn't in a state to make their own decision and so it can be wrong. Also, people often decide that's what they want as the feel they are a burden on others and so it will help thme when really they want to live on and these factors need to be addressed.
I've got several health conditions, none of which life threatening, but I have said to several people that if I end up in a wheelchair which could be a possiblilty later on in life but not one that I have to face soon, then depending on the circumstances and whether or not my arms are fully functional that I would want to be given a lethal jab or something. I am hoping that will never happen but there is a chance as no one knows what is up with me. That is not a terminal illness but one which will greatly affect my quality of life. As well as that, if my pain levels get higher and they keep me house-bound and doped up on Morphine then I don't know. I would top myself if it gets really bad probably but only really one person knows that
Personally i lean towards been against it but i can see why it may be right in some situations.
My mum died this year after being ill for a long time. She suffered, she wanted to die some days, she needed a lot of help and she was never going to get better but i wouldn't have helped her commit suicide and i wouldn't have wanted anyone else to either. Probably for selfish reasons and also because some days life was good for her. Somedays it didn't hurt as much and she was happy. What if she had made the choice to die on a bad day when a good day was just around the corner.
Personally I would hope that if i ever got a long term debilitating disease that meant i was in pain until the I died. I would much prefer to be put out of my misery at a time of my choosing. I also know this is true of my dad and that i would be the likely one to make the decision should these laws come in.
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I support it provided that the person has no chance of recovery and is in a mental state to make the decision. I think it should be the person's choice. We do it all the time to animals, and they don't even have any say in it. I think we should treat humans with the same respect we give to animals, including not forcing them to die a slow and painful death against their will. Incidentally, the first child abuse case to be tried in court in the US was actually prosecuted under animal abuse laws - it was legally to torture your dog before it was illegal to torture your kid.
I think someone mentioned euthanasia in animals... While I support assisted suicide for humans, I actually oppose euthanasia for animals for the simple reason that they can't communicate their wishes. I had a dog that died a few years ago of liver failure after eating contaminated dog food. When it was clear that she wasn't going to recover, my parents started talking about having her euthanized. I begged them not to, but they were going to do it when they decided she was too sick. The never got the chance though - she died at home in her sleep somewhat sooner than anyone expected based on how sick she seemed at that point. Through the whole thing, she never acted as sick as she really was, and I really think she didn't want to die, right up to the end, and I think it would have been cruel to kill her if she wanted to keep fighting even if was only a matter of days. I know that dogs and births at least will sometimes stop eating if they're really unhappy, and I think that if an animal wanted to die it could stop eating or whatever, and if it's still trying to keep going, it's wrong for us to decide to "put it out of it's misery."
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I think someone mentioned euthanasia in animals... While I support assisted suicide for humans, I actually oppose euthanasia for animals for the simple reason that they can't communicate their wishes. I had a dog that died a few years ago of liver failure after eating contaminated dog food. When it was clear that she wasn't going to recover, my parents started talking about having her euthanized. I begged them not to, but they were going to do it when they decided she was too sick. The never got the chance though - she died at home in her sleep somewhat sooner than anyone expected based on how sick she seemed at that point. Through the whole thing, she never acted as sick as she really was, and I really think she didn't want to die, right up to the end, and I think it would have been cruel to kill her if she wanted to keep fighting even if was only a matter of days. I know that dogs and births at least will sometimes stop eating if they're really unhappy, and I think that if an animal wanted to die it could stop eating or whatever, and if it's still trying to keep going, it's wrong for us to decide to "put it out of it's misery."
Well i'm afraoid i'm going to have to take issue with you here. Of course an animal isn't able to communicate its wishes nor if it could would it be likely to choose to die. All of us are gentically programmed to keep ourselves alive thats nature. Its only with the knowledge of disease we have that we are able to make a reasoned decision. We can make a reasonable judgment as to how long you have to live a dog can't but you can at least do it for them. My first cat was blind, deaf in one ear, lost a kidney and her liver was going the same way before my parents decided to put her down. In my opinion they waited to long, she would have been suffering for a long time and ultimately the kinder thing to do is let her die peacfully. To keep an animal alive when you know its terminal is not only cruel but its selfish, your doing because you don't want to lose it, not because you care about its welfare.
Thats off the point but i had to say something.
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I think its a personal choice, if someone is suffering with a terminal illness that makes every second of their life unbearable and they want to die then they should be allowed to.
However I reckon if it did become legal, it should be in a way that doesnt lead the way to suicide clinics for non terminal illness reasons...if that makes any sense.
Even if you aren't terminally ill, I think if you want to die, that's your choice.
It's selfish, sure, but then we don't have laws to stop being selfish we have them to stop you inflicting on other peoples rights, and other people don't have the right to keep you alive at will - and if they do I don't think they should.
I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to take their life, if that's what they want to do.
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In certain cases, I think its okay. I dont believe in assisted suicide for someone that isnt terminally ill or can improve their quality of life.
Now when this comes topic arises, I always think of the movie 'The Sea Inside'. Its based off of a real man's campaign for the right to end his life.
I just dont see why someone has to suffer and be deprived of what they perceive as peace just because of another's selfish reasoning.
I agree with it but the only problem i have is whether the person who wants to die is in a lucid frame of mind when the make the decision. How that can be decided fairly is a difficult thing to decide though.