This is a subject, I often love to discuss. Its plastic surgury. I suffered from depresssion and body dismorphic disorder (aka dismorphobia & dysmorphia) I was labled by phsyctrist with this disorder years ago. I remember begging my mother and theripst to let me speak with a surgeon at least. One time I was insisting on it so much my psychitrist called my house to talk with me one on one. She told me if I had my nose done, I would still hate it and be depressed because I had dysmorphia! Just to work on my self not to fix facial features.The theripst would also say my bump on my nose and the , long bulbous tip only existed to me. That was not true! It existed to me, my freinds, family and (plastic surgeons,the ones I asked up the road.)
Plus I had been abused and severly bullied when I was young
I always knew in my heart that if the goiter went away, my nose was fixed and I found a way to heal myself from the past abuse I would be a really happy girl.
So I fixed my nose, my thyroid went flat, Im working on my past issues. The psychiatrist was wrong fixing my flaws helped. Im more for the cosmetic surgury industry then I am for the psychiatric drug industry. Don't get me wrong I think surgury addicts need help and its very sad! But fixing a flaw to help you self esteem is a good thing!
Whats your take on plastic surgury, with body image issues and depression?
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I don't have a problem with it, per se. I don't think it would really solve any issues that are rooted in body consciousness though, at least not for me.
Its not really going to solve any of your issues. some people can get carried away and spend thousands on changing themselfs, but still they arnt happy.
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People can do whatever they want in the long run and they can get as many surgeries as they want, but in the long run they are still going to find problems with their bodies or something they don't like and therefore get more surgery and spend thousands of pounds just for it to get altered again in a few more years when they find something else wrong.
Of course, there are the few people that only get one surgery and are happy, and i'm happy for them of course. But no matter what - I believe there will still be something you don't like about your body and want to change.
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Personally, I would never change how I look. I'm often comfortable with how I look, but even wen I'm not...this is how I've turned out, so I'm not gonna change that, because...looks are important in the world, but that's because the world sucks. It's basically just a shell housing your personality and your soul. Plus, if I changed how I looked, I wouldnt be me. Not completely. And I think it's a lot cheaper (and healthier) to change your mentality and build up your self-esteem to be comfortable with how you look, as opposed to changing everything you're not happy with. But that's just me, and if ppl feel that bad about it and dont wanna change their mentality, just their appearance in certain aspects, then that's their choice, and that's kwl with me. Although admittedly I hate that so many young women grow up with this idea in their head that they have to look a certain way, that their body has to fit specific requirements, for them to be classed as beautiful. It's because of all these models who get plastic surgery and are airbrushed and have CGI making them look flawless. It just isnt right to me that ppl need to aim for a generalized standard of perfection that NOONE even fits the definition of. Society messed that up, because yeah, if ppl wanna get plastic surgery, it's their choice, but they shouldnt have to grow up hating how they look because of TV and magazines. It's sad.
Oh, and I'll just add that I don't think cosmetic plastic surgery should be available on the NHS unless there is a serious physical problem (like wanting breast reduction). 'Mental anguish' or whatever it is doesn't quite cut it for me, everyone has something they don't like about themselves and it's all too easy to play that up. But then similarly, I don't think cosmetic dentistry (ie, straightening one tooth with braces) should be available on the NHS.
I have BDD, so having surgery wouldn't make any difference for me. Doesn't stop me fantasising about it though!
However, I am waiting to see a specialist about a breast reduction, but that is a medical thing rather than cosmetic. And I had braces on the NHS at a teaching hospital, because my jaw was so messed up I couldn't breathe. Simple tooth-straightening I think should be done privately!
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Oh, and I'll just add that I don't think cosmetic plastic surgery should be available on the NHS unless there is a serious physical problem (like wanting breast reduction). 'Mental anguish' or whatever it is doesn't quite cut it for me, everyone has something they don't like about themselves and it's all too easy to play that up. But then similarly, I don't think cosmetic dentistry (ie, straightening one tooth with braces) should be available on the NHS.
This.
Unless your boobs are causing backache and medical problems, it shouldn't be available. Also, my brother had braces on the NHS, but purely because if he didn't his teeth would grow out and cause jaw problems.
Its not really going to solve any of your issues. some people can get carried away and spend thousands on changing themselfs, but still they arnt happy.
im not trying to be sarcastic but I want to correct your phrase to ":not going to solve any of your issues" to "it will not solve all of your issues" for some people cosmetic surgury, probably would never solve any issye
It will not solve all my issues, because rhinoplasty is just changing a feature I have an extreme dislike for. But like i mentioned above I must now work on whats going on inside and stop there with the surgury. looking in the mirror and liking a facial feature I once hated some how helps put the body image issues to rest, so I can work on the trauma from the past.
Ennui that good you realised it! Theres some things im glad i never touched
I think a person should wait years before you decide it plastic surgury is even right for you. Or else you could make a serious mistake when your at you lowest point in life.
Im going to agree with glittertrashdoll; when you are as low as I was theres always going to be something you don't like. Hell, I got my nose changed and i still hate my eyes. However now that my nose done, my self dislike is a lot less intense. I like my eyes more now that i did the surgury because people tell me they look bigger now that my nose is smaller. But i still wake up and dislike my eyes. Sighhh.
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Unless your boobs are causing backache and medical problems, it shouldn't be available. Also, my brother had braces on the NHS, but purely because if he didn't his teeth would grow out and cause jaw problems.
But yes.
The braces things is a personal bugbear. My teeth/jaw was so bad that I was referred to a maxilo-facial (sp?) clinic at the hospital rather than just a normal orthodontist. Because I was going to the hospital I had a long waiting list, having to wait a good two years or so before treatment even started. Whereas friends who literally only wanted a front tooth straightened were done before I was even started.
You can change my words but its not going to change my opinion :P
The pharse my "it will not solve all of your issues" is agreeing and disagreeing with what you said. :)
only each invidual can speak for them selves. So if you have any issues, it would not solve yours, your probably more of a person who would like to love your orginal self and work on hurt from with in. Which is great.
Im doing and did both, and for me it worked and is helping my body image, allot. So! it solved some issues but not all. But every issue i shoot down, is another step in the right direction.
Last edited by Habibi : 16-10-2010 at 06:09 PM.
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This.
Unless your boobs are causing backache and medical problems, it shouldn't be available. Also, my brother had braces on the NHS, but purely because if he didn't his teeth would grow out and cause jaw problems.
I forgot to mention my nose bridge constantly swelled before surgury. My nasal passage had some rare condition that causes air bubbles under your skin. Sometimes they swelled so bad, and I would feel Pressure . Thats a medical issue and the plastic surgeon was able to fix it!
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I REALLY think that someone with severe body image issues should not be getting plastic surgery.
However, I used to have extreme body issues, and I wanted to change everything about me, I would have gotten a million surgeries at the time if I could.
But, I got over most of those issues. Needless to say, I'll probably get some type of plastic surgery in the future. I'm happy with how I look right now, but I have huge boobs so when I NEED it, I'll probably get a breast lift, but that won't be for a while. And maybe when I'm older and it's harder to lose weight, I'll get a little but of lipo, maybe a little botox.
This isn't cause I hate myself, it's because I always want to look good and I know when I'm older I'm not going to look as good. I won't OD on it, but I'll probably get a few touch ups.
Generally speaking, I think that plastic surgery should be steered well clear of. I can see that it has value where someone has a genuine "abnormality" (for want of a kinder word), that correction via plastic surgery would really help them. I think people can get carried away though just 'tweaking' themselves strivng for a perfection that doesn't exist.
That said, I try to live and let live, and if they're paying for it privately then I suppose they can do what they like. I can't say much, seeing as I'm a major tattoo enthusiast!
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I've had burns since I was 10 months old. I was in hospital for 5 weeks following and had countless number of skin grafts.
When I was 13 (I'm 17 now) I had plastic surgery on my neck because the scars were pulling on the skin around them and inhibiting on my neck movement.
In short I really don't recommend having unnecessary surgery. It's really not a pleasant experience, especially when you come round from the anaesthetic, plus you have to stay overnight in the hospital. And then you have to deal with it healing, which normally means it starts itching and then getting your bandages off and then looking after it after that's happened.
I personally know Habibi. Her nose was not that bad "before." She will tell you it was horrible! She truely thinks it was.
85% of people would say it did not need fixed.
Many RYL members self harm, while Habibi self harms in another way! Plastic surgury, Is her way to escape who she is.That don't seem healthy. Bibi had a lip augmention, aswell recently. Shes considering changing her first and last name to.
This girl had deep issues, many are so deep that most of you could not even relate to it.
Im not trolling you Habibi, Just seending my love and concern to you and the other ryl members.