Is there any hospital or team in england specialised in BPD?
I was thinking of going to UK to get help. Because i cant find help in greece. What is available in uk specialised in borderline personality disorder?
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I'm not sure it would be worth the effort tbh, if you were thinking of NHS anyway, because the waiting time alone would be quite long. It also depends on different areas of the UK as to what access you would get to what therapys and medications.
is it possible to get a therapist for psychotherapy there? someone who can take care of me both medically and psycotherapisticly?
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In short, no. Individual therapy is basically non existent on the NHS in this country and even the private stuff is limited. It also depends on which area you move to as different places have different services. Many areas don't offer any specialist BPD help at all. Typically you'd be given a psych, which you can see as little as every three months and probably a CPN, or someone similar, who you see once a week and once a fortnight. Although I know peopole who haven't even been offered that.
The main treatment offered is DBT, have you heard of it? Waiting lists are along and it's normally only the skills part of DBT that is offered, not the individual therapy part, but again that depends on area.
The medical stuff would be addressed by a psych and/or a GP. Neither of which would offer you therapy alongside that. There is also a lot of stigma around BPD, even within the mental health system, so I've known being to just get discharged because they 'can't be helped' or there aren't any services that suit them.
So basically what I'm saying is that it would be the luck of the draw for you do get a decent response and you are more likely to not get the help you need than get it. That's not to say that there aren't psych/services that are great with BPD it's just there are a lot that aren't.
What do you have available in Greece? Do you know if you would be able to get treatment here?
I'd generally agree with Katie and ferretmonster, unless you have the means to pay for it. NHS treatment has long waiting lists and is hard to come by. It can be very good treatment if you're lucky (I've been lucky) but getting it can depend on a lot of things, the area you're living in being one of them.
Do you have insurance in Greece? Is there a possibility they could cover your treatment in the UK?
I agree with everything everyone has said. I just wanted to add though that if by 'medically' you mean medication wise then it is highly unlikely you will find someone able to offer you both that and psychotherapy or psychology of any kind since the training for those professionals is totally different. Have you actually looked into other treatment options in Greece i.e someone other than the doctor or therapist you are currently seeing?
Coming to the UK is not going to miraculously offer you 'recovery'. What do you actually think would help you to recover that you are not getting now? It is your responsibility to think about the areas you want help with as much as it is the therapists.
Here in greece i have therapy 4 times every week but i dont think it helps much...
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Getting therapy 4 times a week is probably way more than you'd get in the UK...
I agree with others, there is a lot of stigma with BPD and the MH system with treating BPD, and a lot of people don't get any help at all in some cases or very little help.
Some people do get quite a lot of help though, but for others, it can take a hell of a lot to just get a little help.
Over here, you can be put on a waiting list for DBT or CBT in group therapies.
I'm in STEPPS atm(CBT based), 2 hours once a week, which is quite lucky as some people don't get even an hour a week with anyone, so I'm glad I've been accepted onto the course, it's 20 weeks and some people get denied going to these group therapies, but it also does depend upon your area as well though and the mental health services where you live, that goes for all over the world I think though.
I also see a psych every 3 or so months, I'm currently waiting on a CPN, have been for a few months, which they've said would happen early Dec, now they're saying Jan lol, but yeah, waiting can also be frustrating for some people esp if they've been waiting a while, and in the end, waiting for treatment may be useless because they may for some reason decide you don't get that particular treatment, so it's 50/50 for a lot of people.
But yeh. Treatments for BPD are mostly therapies, mainly, as said above, DBT or CBT, and medication is sometimes used alongside it.
Hospitals are used as a last resort, and then there's the case of it being funded which can be a problem, too.
I think if the therapy you're getting right now isn't helping, talk to the professional about what it is specifically you would like to be happening and what you think would help you, as you also have a say in your treatment, if things aren't helping, you have to say, so they know, and so they can possibly try something else.
Talk about other treatment options with your professional(s) and see where it goes from there.
If you have problems with communicating what you want to say, I'd write it down and give it to them or send it to them.
Here in greece i have therapy 4 times every week but i dont think it helps much...
that's the best you'll ever get and you're incredibly luck to get it.
I'e been referred to the oscar hill personality disorder service and their waiting list is like over two years, and they will only accept you if you meet their criteria
its actually a bit insulting really, that you want to move somewhere else just for the treatment. You have help, some people over here dont because thats the way the world works.
Also the uk is made up of england, northern Ireland, scotland and wales, not just "england".
"Its not how long a star shines, what is remembered is the brightness of the light"
its actually a bit insulting really, that you want to move somewhere else just for the treatment. You have help, some people over here dont because thats the way the world works.
Also the uk is made up of england, northern Ireland, scotland and wales, not just "england".
It's not that insulting really-if you had the money and could go to the best treatment place for your disorder,would you not jump at the chance?
I'm not having a go at you I'm just pointing out maybe that's what the op is thinking/coming from.
I've known people(granted only a few) who had the money and in some cases NHS funding to go to a different country,the NHS one paid for someone to get treatment at the opposite end of the country-even with similar treatment places closer.
The others I know who had the money a couple went to the USA the other just went the best in the uk.
If the op can afford it then....
^thats what annoys me about health care. Not any of you, i'm not cross with any of you. but 'oh you have money, sure come take this place' where as people who don't have the money are stuck on waiting lists. I know that's just the way things are though, and we are lucky to have the NHS.
i saw the PD team once, and havnt seen them since. i dont know why, but no one even bothered to tell me.
he came, explained the diagnosis, came to one tribunal, that was 2 years ago, havnt heard anything since.
just because its specalist, doesnt always mean its the best option.
I'm fine! Totally fine. I don't know why it's coming out all loud and squeaky, 'cause really, I'm fine!
It's not that insulting really-if you had the money and could go to the best treatment place for your disorder,would you not jump at the chance?
I'm not having a go at you I'm just pointing out maybe that's what the op is thinking/coming from.
I've known people(granted only a few) who had the money and in some cases NHS funding to go to a different country,the NHS one paid for someone to get treatment at the opposite end of the country-even with similar treatment places closer.
The others I know who had the money a couple went to the USA the other just went the best in the uk.
If the op can afford it then....
Im thinking in the op's case its not about paying as they are in the EU, therefore can get free treatment here.
"Its not how long a star shines, what is remembered is the brightness of the light"
O know of a place called the retreat in York that is a therapeutic community specialising in bpd, buy it's hard to get the funding to go there and there's quite a waiting list...
I went to a specialist DBT ward in St Andrew's Hospital. It's a private hospital but I was funded by the NHS.
Getting funded by the NHS is all down to the 'postcode lottery'. Basically, regions of the UK are divided into primary care trusts. Those PCTS have their own pot of money that goes towards the patients in that area. So each time I went into hospital it was the PCT for my area that funded it. When I went to the private hospital, the PCT had to decided if they would fund that. If they said no then I could not go.
So even if you do come to the UK, you could end up living in an area where the PCT does not have enough money to fund specialist treatment. Or they might just say no anyway.
Therapy four times a week is more than you get here in the UK. When I was having individual therapy as an outpatient I was offered 12 one hour sessions and that was it, and the waiting list was long.
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