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Old 24-07-2013, 02:43 AM   #721
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How would you feel or what would you think of THEM if they did the same to/for/with you? What stops you being honest about your opinions with them? Do you think they'll get annoyed and/or leave if they aren't happy and you aren't agreeing with them?

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Old 24-07-2013, 02:44 AM   #722
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Also putting your own safety aside is also not a sign of a 'healthy, harmonious' relationship! Definitely not!

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Old 24-07-2013, 02:48 AM   #723
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How would you feel or what would you think of THEM if they did the same to/for/with you? What stops you being honest about your opinions with them? Do you think they'll get annoyed and/or leave if they aren't happy and you aren't agreeing with them?
I just want them to be happy. That's all really.

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Old 24-07-2013, 02:49 AM   #724
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Its like on aeroplanes with the oxygen mask thing.

It might seem right to help a kid put their mask on first, but really, you need to put your own on. Because if you get brain damage or die from lack of oxygen, then you aren't going to be much use to anyone.

They teach you the same in first aid.



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Also putting your own safety aside is also not a sign of a 'healthy, harmonious' relationship! Definitely not!
Sometimes it is necessary to save their lives. I've done it before and I'd be lying if I said it won't happen again
To save their lives, I personally think it is acceptable to risk my own. Isn't that what firemen do all the time? And some ambulance crews?

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Old 24-07-2013, 02:53 AM   #726
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Beckie's last post makes a lot of legit sense. I would seriously suggest you read it cos it's a good metaphor.

In a friendship though then they should also care about you, maybe not exactly equally but fairly so. If one of my friends did something or agree just to make me happy then I'd be a little disappointed because I believe most of my friendships are stronger than one party just placating the other to make them happy. I certainly won't just be silent if I disagree with my friends because how can you have a proper relationship if you can't be honest with te other person? Or worse, are making yourself a martyr with them?

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Old 24-07-2013, 02:56 AM   #727
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You aren't a fireman though. Or an ambulance driver. As a friend you do what you can to help The other person but not at the risk to your own life. That won't help either of you learn boundaries and even best friends should be clear at least in their own mind of what they find acceptable! Sure one off occasions happen but they should be just that, extreme, one off situations and not that would risk you because f your friends were well and real friends then they wouldn't want you to risk your life.

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Actually, firemen, paramedics and police officers are trained to risk assess a situation first before jumping in. Its not like in Casualty you know!

Can you imagine if a paramedic got injured trying to help someone else, and then another paramedic got injured trying to save the person and the other paramedic.
It would be like dominos, except with paramedics.



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Old 24-07-2013, 03:11 AM   #729
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And with fire crews. Fireman runs into burning building to save someone, ends up getting killed because they haven't taken into account the risks of said burning building That's two dead people instead of one.



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Oh yeah, I remember!

Its DRAB protocol in first aid.

In order of priority:
Danger (is the area and situation safe?) If yes, then continue.
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Old 24-07-2013, 03:41 AM   #731
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Glad to see those courses are coming in Handy

You remember far more than I can from my courses a few years ago!

Jokes aside OP, the points re emergency service protocol are definitely worth considering.

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Beckie's last post makes a lot of legit sense. I would seriously suggest you read it cos it's a good metaphor.

In a friendship though then they should also care about you, maybe not exactly equally but fairly so. If one of my friends did something or agree just to make me happy then I'd be a little disappointed because I believe most of my friendships are stronger than one party just placating the other to make them happy. I certainly won't just be silent if I disagree with my friends because how can you have a proper relationship if you can't be honest with te other person? Or worse, are making yourself a martyr with them?
They do care about me, wouldn't be much of a friendship if they didn't.
Friends in rl at the moment don't need that kind of help. Only one did & I haven't seen them for ages

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Old 24-07-2013, 12:27 PM   #733
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Is your friendship based on opinions that you pretend to have?



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Is your friendship based on opinions that you pretend to have?
I don't understand

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Old 24-07-2013, 12:52 PM   #735
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well, are they your friends because you pretend to have the same opinons as them?

Would they still be your friends if you were being yourself?



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well, are they your friends because you pretend to have the same opinons as them?
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Would they still be your friends if you were being yourself?
Umm. I am myself. I'm just a person who is naturally caring

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But you change your opinions to make other people happy?



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But you change your opinions to make other people happy?
No? I just don't argue

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That's supportive... and very childish

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I am rather disappointed with some of the stuff on this forum.
How people can be really unpleasant to me and nothing happens but the moment I say something even slightly unpleasant after being provoked I get attacked
How I get attacked over my views on psychiatry

I am very disappointed with this site
Granted, the majority of you I have never actually talked to and the majority of you that I have have been very helpful
It's just that small idiotic minority (as always) that are really unpleasant

See what the f*** did I say to wastedsoul to deserve that?
Some of the people on this support site should not be on here.

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