I have a couple of points on the kids flying on planes thing...
1. I recently fly back from Florida. It was a long haul flight, 8 hour in total I think. There was a baby in the seats across the isle from us and it didn't make a sound. Can't have been more than a few months old as it couldn't walk/talk/look like a real person. So basically, I don't think that you can really ban all babies because some of them cry all the time because the ones that don't wouldn't be able to go anywhere.
2. When I was a baby, we went to America for my first christmas to see family. Because I was a small child and there was space, we got a free upgrade to buisiness class so I could crawl around on the floor and my parents didn't have to worry about me annoying the other passengers.
Just because some babies cry and make a nuisence of them selves doesn't mean that anyone should tar them all with the same brush.
On the subjects of restaraunts, people with children need to take some responsibility and not take their kids out when they should be in bed, or to unsuitable places. Also, I think the idea of a child free area might be better for everyone? Failing that, have a child free restaraunt and if people don't like it then they can just go somewhere else.
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i wouldnt consider planes public transport since usually flights are a couple hundred bucks which some cant afford.
It's public because you pay and travel with other members of the public. A train ticket can cost over £100, and even the cost of bus travel can be prohibitive for some. With the increase in low-cost airlines, aeroplanes are just as public as other means of transport. In fact, it's often cheaper for people to fly rather than get the train.
I'm not sure what to think of this. On the one hand, the behaviour of other people's children annoys me, on the other I grew up going into situations like a smart restaurant and always knew how to behave. Maybe ban under 3's, who cannot be expected to be that in control of their behaviour and then reserve the right to ask any family to leave who's children misbehave. That way it doesn't spoil things for families who's children are well behaved.
I guess, it was more pontificating than a fully coherent thought.
When I was younger, my Dad would refuse to take us in any pub or restaurant that described itself as family friendly. He assumed that meant children running riot.
I have a child but would be happy to have a child free restaurant. Not like its banning them in all restaurants and if its posh its probably not massively suitable for kids anyway. There's places I wouldn't take my son to based on lack of children facilities and not being appropriate and I wouldn't take him if he's tired or its late. Luckily Elliot is pretty good anyway but I would take him outside to chill if he plays up.
I have seen a lot of pubs (that also serve food) and some of the more upmarket restaurants ban kids after 8pm, that seems like a pretty fair compromise to me. As if you have kids you would usually eat early anyway.
Dont think you can do much about kids on flights but maybe a child free area would help. I dont mind kids anyway really.
Maybe it's the idealist in me, but it doesn't seem like it should need to be illegal to be a bad idea to take your young children to a nightclub. I guess rules exist because people do things like that.
I don't see what the big deal is, restaurants and bars ban under 14's after a certain time, there are child-free weekends/weeks at holiday resorts, child-free hotels etc. etc.
There are endless amounts of places which don't want children so, if say, a couple wants to go away without their kids for the first time in years, they can do that without having anyone else's screaming brats too.
It's not as if they ban kids from a couple of restaurants and planes that there's going to be a plane FILLED with children and families, it just means that if adults want to choose to be away from the possibility of being disturbed by babies, then they can do quite easily.
Didn't realise everyone would get so up in arms about children being 'discriminated' against because they're annoying little shiits.
I'm gonna tap him like a maple tree. I'm gonna search him for some syrups. I'm gonna be having sex with him.
I think it's a great idea, also the child-free carriages/plane compartments idea.
I love children, but struggle immensely with screaming. I remember once being in a Little Chef (not saying children should be banned from those!) and a poor little very sleepy child was screaming and screaming (the parents were trying to console him) and it was so shrill I literally choked on my food, burst into tears and started hyperventilating.
So yes, lots of child-free things. Also grown-ups only soft play areas and playgrounds.
if someone is disturbing other consumers then they should be ejected from the place of business dont matter if its a plane,bus,train,place to eat or the movies.
The use of the word 'eject' made me laugh. Like people can be 'ejected' from a plane if they're noisy >_<
are they actually allowed to say no children? they shouldn't be. that is age discrimination. the only way they should be allowed to do something like that is to show an R rated show every minute they are open!
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are they actually allowed to say no children? they shouldn't be. that is age discrimination. the only way they should be allowed to do something like that is to show an R rated show every minute they are open!
a business is allowed to choose who they serve and dont serve or allow on their property.
are they actually allowed to say no children? they shouldn't be. that is age discrimination. the only way they should be allowed to do something like that is to show an R rated show every minute they are open!
Not necessarily. It's pretty difficult to prove as well. And some age discrimination is perfectly legal.
Just ban all children from everywhere.
Can't stand them, especially in supermarkets where the child is no-where near the adult supposedly in charge of them.
I'm a grump though, and don't like children.
I think it would cause more hassle to ask people to leave due to their child screaming or whatever.
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