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Old 12-09-2011, 01:32 PM   #141
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Im gonna say something and i know im hated on here but hear me out

im not deneying you all work hard but

a member on this site had a whole lot of ryl people slagging her off on fb now after getting worked up she just put it down to stupid petty members but then saw a mod had actually joined in. so its a bit like why should we have respect for a mod that actually
joined in.

both me and a friend have had encounters with this particular mod befor

i dont deny to you dont work hard but seeing that has hit a nerve when you all say respect the mods.



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Old 12-09-2011, 01:40 PM   #142
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Pinkglitteredfairy, I'm sorry to hear that happened, that is awful.

Bigmike, I don't understand. Why don't ginger-haired people have souls? And what is funny about it?



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Old 12-09-2011, 01:43 PM   #143
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^ It's just mucking around. Like there are blonde jokes etc. Em isn't remotely offended by it and it's all in jest.



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Old 12-09-2011, 01:45 PM   #144
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Im gonna say something and i know im hated on here but hear me out

im not deneying you all work hard but

a member on this site had a whole lot of ryl people slagging her off on fb now after getting worked up she just put it down to stupid petty members but then saw a mod had actually joined in. so its a bit like why should we have respect for a mod that actually
joined in.

both me and a friend have had encounters with this particular mod before
As mods, we are people too. I'm not condoning this mods behaviours, but I think members do have to realise that we are also people with feeling, it is impossible for us to like and get on with everyone. I know there are members on this site who I don't particularly get on with, and thus I don't engage with them. Similarly there are members I consider good friends. My like or dislike of an individual doesn't now, however, affect my modding. Not from my perspective anyways. Although I do find, as a chat mod, that the people I am friends with have enough respect for me to listen to what I say to them as a mod, and thus further action is not always required (for example people who are having an argument being told to stop - I often find the people I am friendly with respect that I am telling them to stop, and will do so, whereas others will continue the argument, thus crossing a line, which results in me kicking them - not because they are not my friends and I am being unfair, but because they have not listened to direct instructions from a mod).

*gets back to the point*
We are people, RYL is RYL, facebook is facebook. While a mod may be forced to hide their dislike for someone on RYL because of their status, there is no such need on facebook, and ultimately the other mods have no jurisdiction over what occurs on facebook. If you had someone from your real life on facebook who was bullying you, what would you do? Block them I imagine, so why should it be any different for members (or mods) of RYL who you have on facebook? It shouldn't.

Again, I am not condoning the behaviour of those RYL members who are bullying outside of RYL, but merely pointing out the reality that you cannot et along with everyone, and that RYL mods have no control over what is said on facebook.

I respect that you may feel the mod in questions behaviour does not allow you to respect them, however I would urge you to remember that we are people, and also I would point out that none of the mods I know here let their personal preferences affect their judgements or behaviour on RYL. I know for a fact that most mods will step away from discussions where they feel they will be overly harsh with punishment because of a personal dislike for a specific member.

We can't hide our feelings for other people, and it is hard at times. We are mods and therefore cannot say a mean word to anyone else on RYL, we are forced to get along with everyone, but outside of RYL there is no such ruling.
Real life dictates that not everyone will get on, everyone will get bullied in some way, shape or form at some point in their lives, it's how the person deals with it that makes them who they are.



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Old 12-09-2011, 01:47 PM   #145
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The aim of this thread, for me, wasn't to start an argument.
I never wanted this.
I just wanted to merely share my veiws, to see if anyone agreed, and to see if anything was being done about it. I didn't know there had been threads about this sort of thing before. I would explain my lack of knowlage on the subject, but I dont want to be accused of turning this thread all about me.
I understand the mods work hard. And I apprieciate that. I never said they didnt work hard. When I have said something in this thread about the mods, i never meant it as an insult but more as constructive critism. And I am terribly sorry if I have offended anyone.

On another note, I do feel targetted and bullied in this thread from speaking my mind. As I have appologised for, I didn't word it very well. I should have re-thought what I was saying and re-worded it, so it came across the way i had it in my mind. I didn't want an argument as I have said.

At the time when I first wrote this thread I was merely angry. I have calmed down now, and understand everyones views to a point. The point where, to me, it goes from different veiws to an argument and bullying is the part I dont understand, and wont stand for. if I believe someone is bullying me I will stand up for myself.



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Old 12-09-2011, 02:31 PM   #146
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Im gonna say something and i know im hated on here but hear me out

im not deneying you all work hard but

a member on this site had a whole lot of ryl people slagging her off on fb now after getting worked up she just put it down to stupid petty members but then saw a mod had actually joined in. so its a bit like why should we have respect for a mod that actually
joined in.

both me and a friend have had encounters with this particular mod befor

i dont deny to you dont work hard but seeing that has hit a nerve when you all say respect the mods.

But thats facebook, its not RYL.
And while the mods have to behave on RYL, they don't on facebook, mods can't like everybody, just like everybody else finds people they just cannot get along with.
I can understand that you have trouble respecting this mod, but if you feel their being harder on a certain member because of dislike, you can bring it up to them, and if its found to be true, they will get in trouble themselves.



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^ It's just mucking around. Like there are blonde jokes etc. Em isn't remotely offended by it and it's all in jest.
Exactly, there are the stereotypes of alot of hair colours, such as blonde = stupid, and gingers = outcast/no soul, etc :)

And nah, not offended at all, most of the time I'm starting the ginger jokes off, such as how I don't like the root Ginger, and how very ironic that is =P
*Hijack about gingers over*

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Old 12-09-2011, 02:44 PM   #148
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:34 PM   #149
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All of the Mods do a bloody good job, I'll bet most other people on this site wouldn't be able to do the things you do. I'll be the first to admit I don't have any where near the amount of patience needed to keep this site running and make sure no one is breaking rules etc etc.

I really think people need to stop taking everything so seriously, in General Chat members post all sorts of random stuff but as soon as you go in to the dedicated support forums I see those same members providing great support. In this life you will always find people that offend you in one way or another, you can't let it get to you so much. If I got upset every time some one made a joke about my Welsh background I'd be upset nearly every day.

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Old 12-09-2011, 04:06 PM   #150
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What is funny about being ginger? I'm really confused. I've heard this joke before but nobody explained it to me.
Sorry that this has confused you! I'm not sure how it started, but it's a sort of universal joke that being ginger is a negative thing, so people will make jokes about it, but it's not meant in any sort of nasty way, it's just a friendly joke. For example, my flatmate is dating a ginger guy, and she will joke about him being ginger, and say that she isn't sure about having children with him in case they are ginger, but it is just a joke, and she loves him really :)
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Im gonna say something and i know im hated on here but hear me out

im not deneying you all work hard but

a member on this site had a whole lot of ryl people slagging her off on fb now after getting worked up she just put it down to stupid petty members but then saw a mod had actually joined in. so its a bit like why should we have respect for a mod that actually
joined in.

both me and a friend have had encounters with this particular mod befor

i dont deny to you dont work hard but seeing that has hit a nerve when you all say respect the mods.
I don't see why it's necessary to air your dirty laundry here? If you (I'm assuming the member to whom you refer is you) don't like this person, block them on facebook, or report them to facebook if you think they've done something bad.

If you feel he/she has stepped out of line on RYL (which I don't think you are accusing them of), then report it to another mod.

The mods run this site, and if you don't want to respect their judgments and rulings, then maybe you need to find a different site.



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Old 12-09-2011, 04:09 PM   #151
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Ok thank you for clarifying that the ginger hair thing is a joke. I sort of understand now.



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All of the Mods do a bloody good job.
And if you say anything to the contrary they'll censor your comments! Because that's how good they are! Yaaaaaaaaaay!

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Old 12-09-2011, 05:10 PM   #153
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And if you say anything to the contrary they'll censor your comments! Because that's how good they are! Yaaaaaaaaaay!
Now that is not true, i've seen comments about how bad mods are etc and they don't censor it, so i think you may have been wrong in your comment there.





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And this thread is just going round and round in circles now.





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Ok, that's fair. I welcome debate about it. Unfortunately I'm leaving for class soon. I'll describe at length my frustrations later tonight. Until then, carry on, chaps. :)



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No matter what the joke is, usually it's going to offend someone. I think if it's something you don't like, ignore it. But I also think that sometimes general is kind of taken up by these threads, and that people who aren't in that group of friends posting can maybe feel a bit left out. And I know that people don't do that intentionally, but it could probably help the site a little if people were more aware of that. Most people here obviously have their problems, and some people are shy, even online, and can find it hard to get involved when people obviously have their own groups of friends. Maybe if there were more threads where people just have a general chat, but that are more accessible to everyone instead of being aimed at the same people, that could make it easier for people to ignore the stuff that they don't like because they would have a place where they feel comfortable.

I'm just trying to maybe come up with a constructive solution that might make everyone a bit happier. I don't tend to post here a lot anymore, but I am around a lot. I get the impression sometimes that maybe it's not so much that people find the jokes offensive but maybe that they feel left out of things.

And I also wanted to add that the mods to a fantastic job, and I hope that none of you let silly comments people make get you down.

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^ But thats how you make friends, the thread about me being ginger, I knew 3 of the 7-8 people posting in there, and made friends with the rest that night because they were posting in it, I used to feel like that, until I just started jumping into conversations, the people were very welcoming and the conversation. Such as, Jenna, who made the thread, didnt know if I used my name around the board, because we only really started talking that night.
I can understand where you're coming from, but if you don't jump in then your just going to sit on the edges and get more resentful at the people making friends with each other. (Not reffering to you directly, just using "you" in that sense.



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^ But thats how you make friends, the thread about me being ginger, I knew 3 of the 7-8 people posting in there, and made friends with the rest that night because they were posting in it, I used to feel like that, until I just started jumping into conversations, the people were very welcoming and the conversation. Such as, Jenna, who made the thread, didnt know if I used my name around the board, because we only really started talking that night.
I can understand where you're coming from, but if you don't jump in then your just going to sit on the edges and get more resentful at the people making friends with each other. (Not reffering to you directly, just using "you" in that sense.
There has been the odd occasion when I've felt a bit hesitant about joining a thread 'cos I've felt as though there's a joke there that I wasn't fully privy too. Don't get me wrong, I never felt bothered by it if that makes sense.

Having read your post I think I will jump into threads in future



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There has been the odd occasion when I've felt a bit hesitant about joining a thread 'cos I've felt as though there's a joke there that I wasn't fully privy too. Don't get me wrong, I never felt bothered by it if that makes sense.

Having read your post I think I will jump into threads in future
Yeah I get exactly what you mean, I have felt like that about the odd thread too, I just wanted to clarify if anybody felt uncomfortable about jumping into the threads the other night, that we didn't actually now each other, and know we do :) And please do! The more people the merrier :)


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I share Em's views! That was a quality night, and I got to meet lots of nice people that I hadn't met before, like Em and Lanny.

Also, as an inspirational anecdote, the same happened to me in chat- all the cool kids were in a room but I plucked up the courage to go in, and was like, omg I'm so scared of chat, and everyone was nice to me, and now I quite often go in chat and feel very comfortable :)



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