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Old 06-02-2011, 07:26 PM   #1
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getting a later bedtime?

my parents are pretty protective. well.... very protective. anyways.... i want to have a later bedtime (not curfew, bedtime). oh, im 17 by the way, and my youngest brother is 13, so its not like we're little. we're supposed to be in bed by 10ish on school nights, unless we're still doing homework, and much past 10:30 we usually go to bed and pretend to sleep for a while, and then get up after my parents are asleep to finish. and on weekends, its about 11ish. which means that its kinda hard to do anything. like tonight, we want to go to a superbowl party, but our parents want us home at 9. because "its a school night"....

so a few questions....

1) does this seem like a really early bedtime?
2) if it does, what are suggestions of arguments that i could use to try and get a later bedtime? cause i'm running out of ideas....




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Old 06-02-2011, 07:46 PM   #2
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I had a bedtime right until I was 18. 10pm school nights 10:30pm none school nights. So I know how you feel on that score.

I think just try talking you your parents. about a later bedtime.
I would say though even though its fustrating for you I think because it is a school night they don't want you staying out late. and I think thats ok to do that.

So just talk to them about it. I did and they hav now laid off. even though I do go to bed on my own now at around 10:30-11 so it hasn't really made a difference



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Old 06-02-2011, 07:48 PM   #3
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well its also a problem when we'll get home from activities late... like i get home from dance some nights at nine thirty and still have homework to do. so then i have to pretend to go to bed, and get back up and do it even later.....




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Old 06-02-2011, 08:01 PM   #4
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Your parents do have a point especially if it is a school night, but maybe they think that if you are getting less sleep, you are going to be more tired and this might then effect your school work

I wouldn't say it was an early bedtime, i'd say it was a little late for your younger brother, it all really depends on what time you get up in the morning and how tired you get, you are supposed to get rougly nine hours sleep a night so you'll suffer a bit if your going to bed at the early hours in the morning

What time did you want to be going to bed too?
You could try telling your parents that you want to go to bed a little later and you could do a trial run for a week or two, and if you aren't tired throughout the day and your school work isn't suffering then maybe your parents could extend your bedtime.

Hope you get your later bedtime :)



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Old 06-02-2011, 08:04 PM   #5
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in general its fine except for the pretend to go to bed, then get back up to do homework, then go to bed again.....

i don't need it changed in general, would just like there to be chances to make exceptions everyonce in a while.... we didn't even get to stay up on new years




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Old 06-02-2011, 08:17 PM   #6
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I wouldn't say it's too early for your brother if he's only 13, but at 17 I think you should be responsible enough to choose your own bedtime, and face the consequenses if you stay up too late and then can't concentrate at school. Maybe you could try talking to your parents about it?

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Old 06-02-2011, 08:50 PM   #7
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I agree with above.
I haven't had a bedtime since I was 11. I go up to bed/go sleep when I want. I normally stay downstairs while my family go up to bed and watch TV/other things... then about 00:45 I go up to bed and probably just sort things out in my room, snuggle in bed, listen to ipod, ect and when I feel tired I go to sleep... most night about 1:30am - 2:30am I decide to go to sleep. Most parents make their child go to bed early, so they're not tired the next day. However, if I'm tired the next day that's my fault, no one elses. I chose to go to sleep in the early hours of the morning.

I don't see why you're parents don't let you decide what time you should go to bed/sleep. You're old enough, I'm the same age as you.
Maybe ask them to give you a few days and see how it goes with you deciding when to go to bed/sleep?

I mean you're old enough to know that it's not a good idea to stay up till 1am on a school night, but on a weekend I don't see why it's so bad?

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Old 07-02-2011, 10:44 PM   #8
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I agree with the above, too. My bedtime stopped when I had just turned 15 and started work experience.

I think there's great value in having self-discipline and a self-set bedtime, but I think at 17 that should be one that you are given the responsibility to deal with.

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Old 08-02-2011, 12:40 AM   #9
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I stopped having a bedtime around 16. I'd talk to your parents and just let them know that it's your responsibility to know when to go to bed, and you have to deal with the consequences. :]








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Old 08-02-2011, 11:17 AM   #10
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Yeah I think my parents stopped telling me when to go to bed when I was about 14 or 15, although I pretty much still went to bed around the time they would have told me to go anyway, on school nights.

You say that sometimes you go out in the evening, and then when you get home it is your bedtime but you still need to finish homework. Perhaps you need to prioritise doing your homework over going out? I know you can't study all the time, but if you know you need to be in bed at 10 then could you not do some work before and after dinner so that way it's done by the time you go out?

It does sound unfair that you still have a bed time on non school nights, especially at your age. Have you tried talking to your parents about it? Explaining that you feel you should be able to decide when you go to bed when you dont have to be up for school the next day?



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Old 11-04-2011, 07:22 PM   #11
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i never really had a bed time especially when i had my daughter young even if i wanted to got obed early i was up a few times a night but now shes three i go to bed about 9 because she gets up really early sumtimes lol if i go to bed at 10 im really ratty and tired in the morning lol

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Old 11-04-2011, 09:04 PM   #12
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i had bed time right up til i left home at the age of 21. i also had to be home by certain times too. my parents didnt let me lie in either. alot of arguments came from me protesting sleep and awake times. when i did move out i stayed up all night until i finally got bored and realised having a bedtime routine was much better. i tink you should speak to your parents about needing extra homework time though if you need it and havnt wasted time (think of what wasting time in your parents eyes would be eg, texting, talking on phone, on internet, tv) and perhaps special privallages for things that are on the rare occasions. x





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Old 11-04-2011, 09:29 PM   #13
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On school nite why would you want to be up any later than 10, you have a long day, id haggle for late friday and saturday nite cus your 17 it should be a stretch in those evenings it gives all parties the chance to build trust that you can look after yourself in a senisble way and keep it all within barriers so you keep safe and still have fun.



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Old 11-04-2011, 09:37 PM   #14
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I stopped having a bedtime when I started using the internet loads. So when I was about 14.
I think you're just going to have to deal with it until you turn 18.





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Old 13-04-2011, 12:23 AM   #15
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Have you tried talking it over with them? Showing them how mature you are can be a great starting point to them treating you more like an adult. Maybe you could try constructing an argument - work out what point you want to make, and think of +s and -s - just to show that you have thought it out and rationalised it in a mature way. For example:

Quote:
Proposition: "I'd like to have more flexibility sometimes with my bedtime"
Provisos:
- If I'm tired, I take full responsibility.
- It will only be in exceptional circumstances, rather than the norm.
- If I have one later night, I will follow that by an earlier night.

Considerations:
+ I sometimes cannot get my work done by the time my bedtime comes around, and so I end up staying up later and doing the work, or not completing it as well as I could do.
+ By giving me some responsibility in choosing my own bedtime, it's empowering me to make my own choices and identify what is better for my body in terms of sleeping times.
+ Sometimes social events interfere with getting to bed at the specific time, which means that I end up missing out on seeing friends or developing a social life.

- It is useful having a standard time to go to bed.
- It is more likely that I would be tired if I go to bed later.
- I am more productive if I have a better sleep.
etc. etc. - sometimes parents don't realise how mature their children are, so showing that them you've considered and weighted up the options may work in your favour. It may not do too, of course :P But it's my suggestion.

In fairness, a lot of people I know go to bed at a pretty standard time anyway, so it's not as though that's any different. But I do understand that it must suck sometimes!

Good luck, anyway.

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Old 13-04-2011, 08:45 AM   #16
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I had bedtime when I was like 7/8 and even then,it was just a suggestion. :\
Your parents seriously need a reality check.You're 17 ffs,you should go to sleep whenever you want.




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Old 13-04-2011, 08:21 PM   #17
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sorry, i didn't realize that people were still posting on this.......

so.... i turned 18, a month ago now. still get sent to bed if my dad is home. my mom is good about it, though still sorta tries to guilt me into going to bed. but shes agreed that i'm old enough to not need a bedtime, your suggestions were all helpful. so now....... i've just got to talk to my dad i guess. which is much more intimidating since he never backs down, least not that i remember

its not so much that i want to stay up late all the time, or even that i would. on my own i tend to go to bed relatively early compared to others. its more the idea that im not allowed to stay up if i want to. please understand, i don't want to stay up to get in trouble. i wouldn't do anything bad.

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Old 27-04-2011, 10:42 PM   #18
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if your 18 surely you old enough to decide when your tired enough to go to bed

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Old 28-04-2011, 10:33 AM   #19
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I agree with above.
I haven't had a bedtime since I was 11. I go up to bed/go sleep when I want. I normally stay downstairs while my family go up to bed and watch TV/other things... then about 00:45 I go up to bed and probably just sort things out in my room, snuggle in bed, listen to ipod, ect and when I feel tired I go to sleep... most night about 1:30am - 2:30am I decide to go to sleep. Most parents make their child go to bed early, so they're not tired the next day. However, if I'm tired the next day that's my fault, no one elses. I chose to go to sleep in the early hours of the morning.

I don't see why you're parents don't let you decide what time you should go to bed/sleep. You're old enough, I'm the same age as you.
Maybe ask them to give you a few days and see how it goes with you deciding when to go to bed/sleep?

I mean you're old enough to know that it's not a good idea to stay up till 1am on a school night, but on a weekend I don't see why it's so bad?

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This. I'm 17 and I have no bedtime, I go when I want.
I stopped having a bedtime when I was 14 or so :P

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