Bi-Polar... Fianally Their Listening *UPDATE QUESTION ABOUT PHYCIC OVER DOCTORS*

[LetMeSlipAway]

hey guys...
i posted a thread on here a while back on what to do if you think you've been giving the wrong diagnosis...

i was diagnosed with depression and PTSD about 5 years ago, but i never really agreed with the depression part as im not always depressed and i seem to have my happy moments...

i went into hospital in februay and my mood swang all over the place so i put on a mood stableiser (carbmazipine or tegrotol) but they never said anything about changing my diagnosis...

so... long story short i was up with my consultant today and he said they think i may have had bi-polar for quite a while now... WTF!!! NO ONE TOLD ME! ive been wrecking my brains trying to argue with them that im not depressed!

why do they never tell us nothing... does this happen to anyoen else where they don't keep ya informed in anything and your left wondering all the things urself?

ANOTHER QUESTION
today i went up to see a physic but she said she wouldnt do a reading for the future because she felt at this moment and time my future looked very weak and that at this moment she was unable to predict whether i had a future or not... anyways we got talking and she says she felt that by my aura (which was black ) she felt that i did not have a mental health problem that this was normal because or what ive been thru? any advice?

[Misunderstood.]

It's bad that they didn't tell you when they arrived at that diagnosis but at least you know now.
Do you find the carbemazapine helpful?

[Ghostface]

Ye, kinda. I was diagnosed with depression for like almost 2 years..I did try to suggest for my terapist that I wasnt sure if it was right diagnose, and if it could be possible that it was bipolar instead..She didnt listen to me at all...But when I got hospitalized a couple months ago, they eventually(after several weeks) told me I was bipolar :P

But I find it strange that they gave you medication for bipolar without telling you that they thought you were bipolar. Ive heard that you have to be hospitalized and you have to get informed before they put you on mood stabilisators...

[LetMeSlipAway]

hey colloguial... yea the mood stableisers help alot, before hand my lows were awful and i struggled alot with them... out of all the medication im on i find the carbmazipine is the one that helps the most!

hey ghostface... how did you feel when the finally told you you ahd bi-polar? i was told i was put on the mood stableisers to stop my lows from being so intense but not a word was mentioned about bi-polar or any diagnosis for that matter...

my consultant only said they are thinking about that as i possible diagnosis but they probably wont even tell me if it turns out to be the correct one...

[sherlock holmes]

Ack. I would be very, very, very hesitant to believe anything that came out of a psychic's mouth. I don't believe them, I just think they are very clever in "reading" people's body language.

I would HATE for you to get it into your head that you have no future because a "psychic" could tell that you had negative body language and was therefore able to deduce you were experiecing difficulties.

But, seriously, your doctor/psychiatrist has been to university and has a degree in medicine. They know what they are talking about. Don't believe someone who claims to see into the future over someone so scientific and medical.

[LetMeSlipAway]

I really don't know she seemed pretty accurate and did say some things that she picked up on that scared me because she actually knew what was going on, things she shouldnt have known. she has a reputation of being very accurate and some things she has said in the past to other people have actually happened...
i was sceptical at first but now i don't know what to think

I think i might post about the phycic in another forum also just to see other peoples experiences

[Sunshine]

i was told i have bpolar and i find the mood stabliser i am on really helpful! it certinly elps reduce my mood!

did you find eeing the phycic helpful?

My diagnosis has changed several times and the only reason i actually know what i had was because i got to see my section papers! i do not lie the fact that they change it and dont tell you its annoying and in my opionin not very helpful!

[LetMeSlipAway]

you got to see your section papers? how so i go about do that? i never get told anything about my progress or anything so i find it very confusing... i don't like it! :(

the phycic i seen was good even tho she didnt do a reading... its opened my eyes a bit and has really got me thinking.

[Sunshine]

i appealed my section, so their was massive reprt writtenand with that their were my papers aswell! i can understand why you would be confused! i still am because its changed since ive actually been sectioned! its disconcerting aswell!

Sounds like it was a positive experience then! im not sure i would have found beingtold i had a black aura ncie tho! EEK

[LetMeSlipAway]

i was going to have a tribuniral to apeal to get off my section but thankfully it never came to that i i doubt i could see my papers...

if you dont mind me asking what have you been diagnosed with?

yea it was quite weird... ive been looking up on black auras and its not a good thing to have apparently

[sherlock holmes]

I saw my section papers. I just asked to see them. It's your right to see them *nods*. Then I saw what grounds they had sectioned me on. Psychopathic disorder, the legal definition- "a persistent disorder or disability of mind (whether or not including significant impairment of intelligence) which results in abnormally aggressive or seriously irresponsible conduct on the part of the person concerned."

[LetMeSlipAway]

would my cpn be able to give them to me? i think i know i was sectioned the first time on a section 2 because i was threating to leave and at the time i was quite ill... the second time i was on a section 2 which progressed to a section 3 and i thini it was because legally they had to have permission to restrain me as i was getting restrained numerous times a day... they did explain at the time but u was too drugged up to remember...

what do the section papers tell you about? like not persoanlly but in general?

[Misunderstood.]

I've found Carbemazapine to be the most effective mood stabilizer too [am also bipolar but along with schizo-affective, though the bipolar tends to be the most dominant].
Seeing a psychic sounds interesting.
I think..but don't quote me on this..that it'd be the psychiatrist who would be able to show you the section papers not the CPN.
Sorry, I feel like I'm interfering..

[Sunshine]

I was dianosed with a personality problem and bipolar because i have horrible downs but i am not always down i can be alright at other times! they can restrain you on a section two but if it lasted longer then a month then they would have had to put you on a section 3! when your section 2 was transfered to a section 3 you would have had to have had a mh act asseement and then someone normall the social worker would have spoken to you to tell you why you have been sectioned..or at least thats what happened with me! but you would definatly of had an assessment but if you were out of it on drugs then i guess you might not remember it! i know how dopped up those drigs they give you make you! it sucks!

xxx

[LetMeSlipAway]

sweetie ur not innterfereing at all... i need all the tips i can get! i really apriciate all your replies!

the carbmazipine really did settle me down but at the beginning it made me a lot worse before i got better...
what dosage are you on?

i'll try and get my consultant to get my papers... would it matter that i switched from an adolesant ward to an adult ward... i was sectioned in the adolesant ward...

yea i remember when they told me they were putting me on a form 10 (section 3) they had my consultant doctor, my staff grade doctor a social worker and 2 staff nurses outside the door incase i kicked off...

it really does suck being so drugged up... at the time i didnt mind so much because i felt so strange but now i can hardly remember much...
its strange

[Misunderstood.]

All the papers that were written on the adolescent should have been transferred to the adult ward and then back to your psychiatrist I would have thought.
I'm on 800mg per day and I take it at 8pm so that I don't get the hangover tiredness effect the next day, if you take it later then you tend to be very drowsy the next morning in my experience.
My psych put me on 1000mg but I decided to cut it back. Haven't got round to telling him yet [not an advisable way to do things, heh].
What about you?, what's your dose?
I found it horrible when I started taking it, the tiredness was the worst bit.

[LetMeSlipAway]

im on 300 in the morning and 300 and night... ive been on it now about 5 months and im always very drowsy in the morning although i am on risperidone and limavain (can't spell it) and occaisionally clopromazine depending on my mood as i take it for a PRN so i guess that would contribute to the drowsiness... i mean its impossible to wake up in the mornings!

i think talking to your doctor about coming reducing your carbmazipine would be advisable really... whats the worse they can say...

do you have to get ur blood taken regularly for your tegretol levels?

im seeing my consultant again on wednesday i think i might just bring up my section papers... im curious now! :)

[Misunderstood.]

I have had one blood test so far and it came back that my levels were therapeutic. I've already reduced the Carbemazapine to 800mg, I probably will tell the psych [am seeing mine this week coming too]. I don't have monthly bloods or anything like that though I think people taking it are meant to.
Can understand you being curious but just hope that looking at the papers won't bring you down as they were from a time when you were quite unwell sometimes looking back at stuff like that can be depressing.
You can take the whole dose of Carbemazapine at one time eg. 600mg at 6pm or whatever time in the evening you prefer. I gather from when I've asked my psych about altering when I take it isn't much of a problem at all.
Risperidone can be quite sedating but it depends on the dose.
I know what you mean about it being impossible to get up, usually manage to drag myself out of bed around 10 but the effort involved takes liberties heh.
I hope your appt will go well on Wednesday

[Sunshine]

I agree, looking at your papers can be a huge downer! i looked at them and still have a coppy that i can lookat whenever i want and it makes me think "wow i was an idoit" but if you want to see them i hope they help! itcan be clarification and make you see how ill you were so you dont go back their i suppose!

it sounds like you were very unwell having so many people outside the door..not very fun esp being restrain i think that is horrible and wrong and i dont gt how one human being can do that to another i mean hold them on the floor and injecting people its horrid!

I'm not on what yu guys are on, im on "depakote" anyone ever been on that? i think its not normally used or something? i'm also on olanzepine and have too reduced, but im scared of telling nyone incase they resection me and inject me with it! EEK i find it hard to wake up too but i think its due to the olanzipine rather then the depakote so i sympthasis their!

[Misunderstood.]

^
I've taken Depakote before but it was 5 years ago so I can't remember much of how it effected me at all apart from it made my hair curly :O
Have taken Olanzapine before also, so definitely can relate to the tiredness it causes =/