Personally, i've quit the sports team over it, as I refused to be bullied by the older people about it. & Things got abit messy when I said no...
Peoples opinions on university initiations?
I'm totally against going that far, if you wanna earn the respect of others, you should have to do it in what you've chosen, not by being abused & bullied by existing members.
That's awful.
Nothing like that happened during my years at uni. To anyone, to my knowledge.
I don't quite understand what it's all about. Well, I do, because I was bullied at school for years. But.
I am a member of the fencing team and have never had to do anything like this. We have all the usual pub nights (Sub Crawl, pub golf etc) but it is optional. I do know that rugby clubs tend to be a bit more drinking orientated and being able to handle lots of alcohol and doing stupid stunts is preferred, but I don't think it's required. At least from what I've heard.
I think if you don't want to do something then you shouldn't have to. If you don't feel comfortable, then leave. You won't be kicked out of the club, from my knowledge of it.
I think if you don't want to do something then you shouldn't have to. If you don't feel comfortable, then leave. You won't be kicked out of the club, from my knowledge of it.
I think the whole thing is beyond pathetic.
Why would some one want the respect of a person who makes them do idiotic, pointless and demeaning things, while they're dressed as a Nazi?
Fair play to you for quitting. That's something to respect.
we all know it goes on...
one of my friends had to eat dog food.
the police won't be able to do much really as it's off campus.
Although it's off-campus, wouldn't the university be able to do something? Especially if it's well known what happens. They could step in and ensure it doesn't continue or risk the club being suspended. Just an idea.
I really don't know to be honest.
As they said on the local news it is a very small percentage of the 10,000 students here who have taken part in these initiations.
There are certain things I know that I obviously won't post online that everyone knows here.
It will stop for now while the police are involved but once they're gone it may still continue.
I know a lot of people on the football and rugby teams through my boyfriend and most of their initiations were just like drinking rather than what they showed.
Also the person who filmed it is just going to cause themselves pain as my uni is kind of the place where everyone knows everyone so finding who it is won't take long especially as the voice was heard on national tv.
I think its funny that they want to put a stop to it so they publicly post the video for all to see. If thats not giving others ideas then i dont know what is.
I dont know anyone on any sports teams from my uni,well i just graduated but i've never heard of anything like that, although i dont doubt there were drinking game initiations. My friends and boyfriend have both been involved with the clubs and societies but never had anythin like this.
IT all seems pretty pathetic to me but then i've never realli been one for impressing others. I knew someone at school who did something because the supposed 'coolest' guy in the year thought it would be funny. Thing was the guy that did it was nice and loads of people liked him, but after he did it a lot of people stopped talking to him. I know he felt bad, but it was my friend that was the butt of the joke and he didnt deserve it. NEWAYS point of that was--it was petty and pathetic like these rituals and afterwards the guy felt stupid but his desire to fit in with someone he looked up to over ruled his common sense.
As I said, personally not saw anything at uni but i probably walked around with my eyes closed.
Initation rituals, aren't those those excuses used to bully someone endlessly? 'Oh it just makes the bond among the newcomers stronger' and more of such blah blah. Personally I never participated in any of that.
Similar kind-of things went on at in the rugby team, or so my ex told me. Thing is, you didn't have to do it. They would try to force people to, but you'd still be allowed to play, even if you didn't. It was for those that wanted to be involved in the 'rugby team' as oppose to the rugby team - the difference being that those in the 'rugby team' would be those that would go out every night, have challenges such as drinking everything on a night out, out of a shoe, not talking to any girls before they got to the club at the end of the night, similar sorts of things.
You could still play rugby - it was a case of whether you'd get to be in the rugby clique or not.
It's disgusting ... but it won't stop. It'll still happen, as much as anything else, so long as people are willing to go along with it. Because, people do go along with it. They know what happens on these events, and they still do it, despite the fact that it's not essential to do to play a sport.
Can initiation ceremonies ever be a positive thing I'm wondering. For example, Brownies,Guides and Scouts have ceremonies whereby you become a full member. I've joined a new university course this year and they have their first social on Thursday, which has been named as an "initiation" for freshers. However all it is is meeting in the students union bar and then a bar crawl. There is no humiliation involved, it's simply a chance for established members of the course to get to know the new ones. I think humiliating initiation ceremonies are wrong, but one's which can help to make people feel an accepted part of a group can be a positive thing.
In my halls of residence in my first year, those applying for roles on the hall committee were required to take part in a similar ceremony where they were expected to eat a clove of garlic, cod liver oil capsule, dog food and a chilli followed by a sandwich filled with more dog food, toothpaste and other miscellaneous items. They were then required to complete other tasks such as drinking a pint of a combination of cooking oil, tobasco sauce, whipped cream etc. They were then pelted with eggs and flour and taken off to a local nightclub.
The interesting thing was that this took place in full view and full knowledge of the warden and sub-wardens and any member of the hall that chose to come along. No one was forced into doing it but it was very much a case of being pressured into it. It was something they were expected to do.
I think as an idea, initiation rights are actually good and as Heidi Tiger said, they can help forge an acceptance and a group bond but I think in many cases, especially at universities, they have gone far too far and it's just wrong.
