What do you all think about private day care nurseries
babies from 6 weeks-4 years and be put there from 7am-6pm.
me and mum were discussing this yesterday,
Maybe for maybe 1-2 days wont hurt if the parents are working
but those who are in there 5 days a week full time i think is a bit much
As soon as the child leaves the nursery about 5-6pm they wont see their parents because as soon as they leave probs give them something to eat it'll be nearly bedtime.
As soon as the child hits 3-4 I do think they should go to nursery at least twice a week for get them kinda educated before they start school but the government funds public ones so why choose a private one where you pay up to £150 a week compared to free ones.
Yeah i think i am being a bit hypacritcal here because i do want to work in a childcare setting and i will be going to a nursery, school, and baby unit.
Also discussing with my mum how could parents put a 6 week old baby into a private nursery i know my mum couldn't.
Also I volunteered at a private nursery few months ago i saw the staff being rough with the children grabbing there arm and swinging them in an aggressive mannor.
The baby unit yes the baby had pinched a member of staff and coz a baby can't understand she giggled and got forceably shoved in a chair she couldn't get out of bless her.
My brother and his ex-wife put both their children in nursery from 5months for the first child and 4/12 the 2nd. They went there from 7 to about 5.30. His wife is a teacher and he works in London and it was a case of they needed the money so both had to be at work etc...
If you have to work, fair enough, but i wouldn't want to have my baby there from 6weeks. I'd want to spend as much time with it as possible!
Did you report what you saw happening? I want want my child swung around by their arms etc..
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There are good and bad nurseries; after alot of the reports i've seen about kids being left alone in buildings, locked in containers etc; i personally wont be putting my son into nursery until he's at least two or three. Even then, i would rather he was with family really.
I don't think strictly speaking you can blame parents for when they put their child into childcare, sometimes people are forced into it y their financial circumstances, for others they may have severe PND and need the break; there's a multitude of reasons.
I think the real issues lies in how good the nurseries are in. There was a very interesting whistle blower report done for the BBC some time ago from an OFSTED inspector: out of a 100 nurseries that were ok, they would only have put their child into five.
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There was a very interesting whistle blower report done for the BBC some time ago from an OFSTED inspector: out of a 100 nurseries that were ok, they would only have put their child into five.
That's the kind of thing that would worry me and make me not want to put my child into a nursery.
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okay, being someone who has done placements in a range of nurseries and worked in a nursery for over 2 years, I do think, that nurseries are good for children, but you have to be so very careful to where you put your child and if it's the right type of system you want your child in.
I used to be, very, oh my god how can people put there child in nursery 5days a week blah blah blah. But i think, until you actually know there parents circumstances, you shouldn't really judge it. Because in some cases, it is actually the only way they can afford to live, is for both parents to be working full time. Saying that though, i do however feel it is unfair on a child to be in nursery from 7.30-6.30pm every day.
My daughter has gone to nursery once a week since she was 8months old and by the age of 2, she will be in nursery twice a week, but for me, it is slightly different as i do work in the nursery my daughter is at.
Nursery provides children with opportunities they may not always get to do at home, especially in messy, exploratory and malleable play. It helps children to build friendships with other children there age and make attachments to people other then there parents.
Right now, nurseries and actually any type of child care for children 5 and under is changing, instead of having birth to 3 and the foundations stay it's now going to be the EYFS which is a lot more child lead, and has to be in place by September.
From my experience there are parents, who if they didn't have to, wouldn't work or put there children in nurseries, but they dont have the choice. There are others however, who don't even seem to give a damn how there child has been or what they have been doing.
As long as you research where you are putting your child, because like everything, there is good and bad nurseries around, then i think nurseries are good for children, but if possible, they shouldn't be in for 5 full days a week.
As for the government funding sessions, they get 12 hours currently a week. Which is 5 x 2.5 hour sessions a week and it's not possible for some parents to just take them to a play school, so they have to do a full morning/day at nursery, but that does then get deducted from your bill. By 2010 i think it is, it should be going up to 15hours a week.
Oh and they don't take them from 6 weeks, it's 3months.
It's so easy to get lost in constantly having to present
whatever face you believe a person wants to see rather than your own
This isn't just in private daycare's, this is in all daycares. Or atleast it's in all daycares i've worked at private or not!
It was actually only the other day i was discussing this on the Baby Support Forum in Vets..
I worked in and out of childcare for 4 years, working in various nurserys around the area (i'd say atleast 8-9 nurserys). I have always said that nurserys can be a huge benefit to children when put in for 2 days a week, or 3 half mornings/afternoons.
However, i have always said throughout the years of working in nurserys, that i do not agree with any parent putting there child in nursery for 5 days a week from 7am until 6pm. To me, that is psychologically damaging for a child. Like you have stated, by the time the child gets home it's bath/story time/bed, which means they get no special time with there parents.
A child NEEDS that time with a parent to grow and flourish. It should not be upto a nursery to set ground rules/punishments to that child.
The children that i took care of, that were in 5 days a week, were either very quiet/emotional & struggled to interact with other children, or they were constantly being told off for hitting other children. I am yet to come across a child who stays in nurserys 5 days a week that is well behaved and relaxed.
One little boy i looked after cryed from the moment his parents dropped him off (at 7am) to the time he was picked up (at 6pm). He didn't eat because he had got himself in such a state, he used to wet himself (he was 4) because he was so distraught.
I actually used to go home crying myself, because it broke my heart. As soon as his parents arrived to pick him up, i'd have a tear in my eye because he was so elated to see them.
It was obvious to me he was spoilt rotten during the weekends, but he felt completely abandoned during the week - which is understandable.
There's the whole arguement about parents being on benefits, having to go out to work to earn a decent wage, etc.
Can i just say - a child does not need luxury toys, clothes or a constant stream of gifts to make them happy.
A child needs love and security more than anything else.
I see nothing wrong with a parent being on benefits for the first few years of there childs life. A single parent can still work upto 16 hours per week while on benefits, to earn extra pennies towards bills/food.
Is being on benefits a good thing? Not necessarily. However, i'd rather see a parent claiming money and giving there child the love & attention they deserve, than dumping a child in nursery for 5 days a week while they continue with there "career".
So, i see nothing wrong with a child, from the age of say..2 1/2/3 going to a nursery for a couple of days a week. It's a fantastic way for them to interact with other children, they learn to share, and sit quietly during reading times etc.
But any child - of any age - should not be shoved into a nursery fulltime.
That's my opinion though..heh.
Oh also, i've been at nurserys where they do accept from 6 weeks onwards, but i've only seen one case where a mother put her daughter into a nursery from that age. Thankfully it's a rare occurance.
There was a very interesting whistle blower report done for the BBC some time ago from an OFSTED inspector:
Is this the program where a woman worked in nurserys that had had a bad report about them?
If so, one of the nurserys on there (where a little girl died from choking on an apple - she was too young to be given a chunk of apple to start with) which was closed down, happened to be one of the nurserys that offered me a placement to work (it was in a place in Cambridgeshire called Cambourne) which i declined, as i had a friend that worked there who left after 3 months as it was so poorly run!
Out of 8-9 nurserys i've worked in, i'd say i'd only put my child into 4 of them..
The children that i took care of, that were in 5 days a week, were either very quiet/emotional & struggled to interact with other children, or they were constantly being told off for hitting other children. I am yet to come across a child who stays in nurserys 5 days a week that is well behaved and relaxed.
Okay, on this, i'll just mention one little boy, as he has been in Nursery full time since he was a year old. He is one of the brightest, loveliest little boy i've ever worked with. I've never actually seen any children at the nursery i work at be either mis-behaved or isolated, more the children who are only in once a week.
It's so easy to get lost in constantly having to present
whatever face you believe a person wants to see rather than your own
Is this the program where a woman worked in nurserys that had had a bad report about them?
If so, one of the nurserys on there (where a little boy died from choking on an apple - he was too young to be given a chunk of apple to start with) which was closed down, happened to be one of the nurserys that offered me a placement to work (it was in a place in Cambridgeshire called Cambourne) which i declined, as i had a friend that worked there who left after 3 months as it was so poorly run!
Out of 8-9 nurserys i've worked in, i'd say i'd only put my child into 4 of them..
That Just Learning nursery should have been shut down after that incident, and they were fully in the wrong to give a 10month old a piece of apple.
After that, the place went to pot, due to not being able to recruit staff. This nursery, is however now closed, thank god.
There manager was an absolute dick, she couldn't even work out how to get the staff to children ratio right, or note and do something about concerns people made to her. No surprises that she resigned haha.
It's so easy to get lost in constantly having to present
whatever face you believe a person wants to see rather than your own
Just Learning used to be one of my friends placements while she was studying to become a nursery nurse.
She absolutely hated it, and couldn't wait to find somewhere else for her to go.
She said it was so unorganised and the ratio's were always out. I can't believe a manager was incapable of understanding ratio's. That's the MAIN thing in nurserys, to ALWAYS have the right number of adults to children/babies.
Also - like litrali 2 steps from that nursery is Morrisons (the supermarket). I worked there for 2 1/2 years and saw some of the workers on a regular basis. Right sour faced idiots some of them.
My mum had met the little baby girl who died..only once though. Well, mum & i used to go to bingo quite often a few years back, and the baby happened to be a granddaughter of someone she knew.
It was so sad :(
And, around about the same time that happened in the nursery, a little boy in my area also died of choking on an apple (but he was old enough to have apple), it was just an unfortunate accident.
It made me very nervous working in nurseries. But some of the dippy cows i worked with in nurserys is unbelievable. Seriously..i've worked with people who have been employed with no qualifications (this was at a specific nursery where ofstead were there on a daily basis) and had no common sense. I was 16 at the time, and she'd walk out of the baby room to have a chat with someone and leave me on my own with 4 babys?!
I had to TELL her once not to give one of her crisps to a 6 month old. I was like wtf? I reported that actually to ofstead. Needless to say i didn't stay there long.
I am SO wary of working in nurserys now. That's part of the reason i came out of childcare, i can't stand nurserys. Not only is it the lack of common sense in some staff members, it's the bitching/backstabbing between the adults. I'm really not into all of that. It makes me feel uncomfortable and paranoid about who's going to say what behind MY back.
I'd definatly love to work with children though, i'm just not sure what avenue to take yet. The problem is the majority of the qualifications you have to earn, you have to have a placement to work in.
So i could brave it when i'm better, and go back to a nursery i've worked at/liked to finish my NVQ..or, look at different avenues to take.
