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Old 27-06-2008, 12:55 AM   #1
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Triggering (SI) - fed up

sorry, this may be the wrong place to post this, but (i know it sounds wierd) this is the forum i feel safest posting in..

a few months ago i got discharged from the 16-19 service cus i turned 19 and they cant work with me past that age...the options i had were to leave therapy or be reffered to adult services, but the thought of going into adult services terrified me so much i didnt turn up to my last few sessions with my psych and just left therapy
because i got discharged from the service and becuase im good at hiding everything going on everyone thinks im loads better, when really im not..im not ok at all

things have slowly been going downhill again. iv become very withdrawn. it sounds horrible but i dread having to see my friends, cus i have to put on this whole im happy and jolly act..and it makes me feel so fake and iv never been a fake person. i just want to be alone
i get extremely anxious and nervy when im near people i dont know...like if i have to go to a shop i need to be in and out as quick as possible and if someone is walking towards me on the street i have to talk to myself to urge myself to keep walking forward. ill only go out nowadays if i have my mp3 with me so the music can drown out the noise of other people.
self harm is constantly on my mind again and iv started taking tablets from around my house and hiding them in my room...i think about suicide so much..and whats worse is it doesnt really scare me, what scares me is failing. all i can think of is i need to get the right timing especially so if i fail i wont see anyone for a while so noone will know i actually attempted.
i either feel complete numbness or everything...i cant cry but i feel so tearful about nothing...i randomly want to cry about nothing but i cant seem to actually cry.
i have really really vivid dreams and often wake up believing them..its horrible. i also have alot of trouble sleeping...it takes me hours to get to sleep and when i am asleep i keep waking up.
im restricting my calorie intake to 500cals a day and trying to do as much excercise as i can.
i sometimes struggle with reality, its hard to explain, but its asthough nothing is real or its all just a dream. i also sometimes feel asthough my life may be a set-up in some way..or that everyone is against me.
i have a voice in my head which tells me im useless and worthless and is only quiet when im destroying myself.

and i dont know what to do....
this is taking over my life and i feel so lost and hopeless..and noone knows

im sorry this post was so long, theres just so much going on in my head right now and i needed to get some of it down somewhere...
i just want it all to go away



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Old 27-06-2008, 06:26 AM   #2
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*hugs sweeteheart*
Firstly Im sorry things are so horrible and difficult for you at the moment. You sound like you are having a really rough time. It is good that you have managed to post this here and get some of it out.

You say you are feeling suicidal and stashing pills. Please on a day when you are feeling likely better ( I know you probably dont feel there are any days like this, but even people with depression ave days which are slightely less depressing than others), see if you can collect them together and throw them away or hand them in at your local pharmacy to be disposed of. Nothing is worth doing that to yourself.I know it might feel like everything is going wrong right now and you're at the bottom of a deep dark hole, but this is a temporary feeling and it can and WILL pass eventually. Suicide is permanent and it effects not only your life, but that of your friends and family around you. And I know you may feel like they would be better off without you but this is not true- its your depression tricking you, because depression is an evil and sadistic illness and that is what it does.

My social worker suggests that if I feel my emotions are stuck or that I want to cry but cant, that I watch a film or read a book or cut up onions- do something that will actually make me cry. She says its not about whether the crying is over your problems or not or how bad you're feeling, any crying triggers the release of emotions and can make you feel better. Perhaps you could try that? Try incorporating onion baji or onion pizza into your 500 a day?

In terms of your food in take and exercise, 500 calories is simply not enough and its going to make you feel worse because a hungry brain gets miserable, even though it may be telling you that what you're doing is good, it is starving and so it isnt happy and would be contributing to your low mood. If you cant face large meals during the day could you try nibbling through out the day? Just low fat things like nuts, seeds, dried fruit or handfuls of plain cereal will not make you gain loads of weight and will give your brain the energy it needs to help boost your mood. Im not going to say dont exercise, because that can have a positive effect also but if you are exercising, do a sensible amount and dont over push yourself. Ive done it before and I ended up stuck in bed with a dodgy leg which trust me when you're feeling miserable any way does not help the situation!

I really honestly think you should consider going back and getting some professional help. There is absolutely know shame in putting your hands up and saying hey Ive tried for a while by myself but actually I think I could do with some extra input from professionals or someone close to you.

Could you talk to a friend or family member? If you havent been eating and you are becoming withdrawn, you may well find that they have already noticed something is up or that you're not doing so good right now.

In terms of adult services- I was put straight in at 17 because there are no "bridgeway" services in my area. I was a bit horrified at first and did kinda wish there was something more for my age because you know, we dont feel like adults at our age!!! But to be honest after the initial "uh oh", I really wouldnt know I was in adult services. Because you essentially are seeing the same people as you would in CAMHS or bridgeway, the only difference really is that from their point of view, they see a much wider spectrum of people suffering from mental health problems. All of my team are very age sensitive and in tune to where I am in my life and the changes that are happening with me. The only real difference I can think of between the adult services and the short period I spent in CAMHS when I was in my early teens is that family involvement, although they still encourage it and everything, its more to do with what you want and making your own decisions and the pressure to consult my parents has been much less ( which from my point of view is fine!). I tend to feel that my decisions have been respected more and Ive got more of a say in who has been involved from home and to what extent. Thats a big plus!
Ive also done time on an adult psych ward, and the first time that happened it was very very difficult and I did wish there were more people my age, but the second time even that was much, much better and I found patients who I could chat to irrespctive of our ages. In fact one person who I met and have stayed in touch with is twice my age!
So please, please dont be frightened about adult services. It would definately be worth your while pursuing as you really sound like you could do with some support right now. And remember even if you dont want a referral onwards, you could always go and see your GP and just have appointments with them from time to time to check over how things are going.

If you still really cant face the thought of adult services, you could try non NHS alternatives? Ive been in touch with a really brillant company lately called "Get connected" ( I think its www.getconnected.co.uk) and basically what they do is you tell them your situation and they can look up and give you info/ contact numbers on all places that you could get help be that national phonelines, or specific services in and around your area. They gave me a really good contact for a local centre that provides art therapy, something I've wanted to try for ages but the NHS in my area cant provide it. That might be worth a look at.

Please sweetie keep your head up and keep fighting. I know it may not feel like it, but this rubbish time for you will pass and things will get better. But no one can help you if they dont know how bad you are struggling, so do try to reach out for them because as you say in your post on here, sometimes you just need to let it all out to someone who cares.

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Old 27-06-2008, 11:21 AM   #3
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you have admitted you still need help so do wht your heart is telling you to do and ask to be referred again.
Adult services arent as scary as people make it out to be,,,in fact, i have found adult services to be more helpful for me. they talk to you like an adult and treat you like one. you are allowed to take part in decisions about your meds and therapy more than in the chiild services.

i was with the same psyc for 3years and then he moved to south Africa...now i have a pysc who i am unhppy with...so it jst depends on the doctor you get. if you are not gettin on with he/she then you have the right to change (as i have now learnt)

so please hun get the help you need and dont be put of. everyone is going to have different experiences and opinions, but you have to be the one to make your mind up about it.

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Old 27-06-2008, 02:34 PM   #4
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*Hugs* It sounds like you're going through a pretty rough time at the mo, but it seems to me like you know you need some help. Adult services can seem scary, but I've heard good things about them and I'm sure they will know how best to help you through all this. Would you be able to tell your GP some of what you have said here? They might be able to help you too x






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Old 27-06-2008, 07:08 PM   #5
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thanks for ur replies

my friends and family think im doing loads better, in the past week a friend and my brother have both commented on how much better i seem...i think the longer iv got these problems the better i get at hiding them.

i dont know, i think deep down i know i need some help cus i know where i end up if i leave things but i just dont see the point in asking for help anymore cus it always ends up the same and i always end up back in this place. i had 2 therapists when i was about 15 and iv had 4 therapists while being in the 16-19 service and iv never trusted any of them or been able to open up to any of them properly. i was also on an adult psych ward and been on prozac and citalopram which did nothing for me. i think the fact that im still in the same place i was in 5 years ago even after the help i have been given holds me back.
and then theres all the stuff in my head even if i thought about going to the gp, about how im making something out of nothing and their just gonna think im being really pathetic and making a mountain out of a mole hill.
i think that im scared ill go to my gp and they wont do anything to help...or what they do try just wont help
i dont know...my heads so busy



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Old 28-06-2008, 11:20 AM   #6
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Hey sazzy

I know how hard it is to take your own advice... but you encouraged me to go to the gp and it did go fine - like you said it would. I know how long you have been struggling, and you deserve so much support. You have been so supportive to me through everything and youre such a close friend of mine. You need to tell the doctor how you feel, because that isnt something of nothing at all.
If you cant face it before (which i think you should try) im seeing you in august anyway so if you make an appointment for then, then i can come with you? and just wait for you? if itll make it easier. We'll take a penguin with us =D
I know what its like when your head is busy, you need to try and tackle on thing at a time and not take on too much at once.
and you know we can always be honest with each other so you can always tell me the truth in our fabulous emails.
lots of love and hugs xxxxxx



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