Triggering (Substance Abuse) - 2C- family addiction?, help

[RobertFox]

Hey..
First post here.
Not sure if this is the right thread (the label system is confusing)

lol anyway.
I don't know if I have a problem
and if I do, rehab is out of the question because I need to keep this secretive (as it can be)

I've been using 2C-E, 2C-B, 2CT7, 2C72, psi2CT4.. the list goes on.
I love them?
Is this a problem if I'm using them 4 days a week?
I feel like : doze: when I have them in my system.
And I feel like I'm missing out on life when I don't have them in my system.
I think they might be permanently damaging my perception on reality. Maybe. I just don't know. Does anyone here know how I can stop?
I do(have done) many other drugs recreationally/experimentally/for self exploration, but never like these.. They are just amazing to me and I just have never felt that before.

My friends tell me I have a problem. Some of them tell me I don't, including my close friend which makes me question my judgement. I don't know what to do, and I can't afford to let the public know about this, so rehab is out of the question. I have tried to stop many times over the past couple months, but I can't stay away and I always get drunk(and what-not) to try to find a way out of reality on the days I'm not working and not using 2C?

Thanks.

EDIT: Yeah, they are definitely altering my reality. But I can't stop myself. I want my reality to be altered. Why?! What's wrong with me.

[blondiebear]

Hi RobertFox, Yes, you posted in the right place.

You will have to decide for yourself if you are addicted. Deciding if you are addicted does not mean you have to do anything about it.

What you can do is look up Narcotics Anonymous on the internet. They may have a list of questions that you can answer for yourself so you can decide if you are addicted. (I know that Alcoholics Anonymous has lists of questions.) You don't have to talk to anyone or anything, just look at it. Taking action is up to you.

[Merc]

i can tell im getting old...
i dont even KNOW what the **** they are???!!
but they sure as hell cant be good for you.
romp

[Lewis The Second]

As far as I know the 2C family isn't at all 'addictive' - but obviously you can become accustomed to the state of mind you're in when under the influence.

Four nights a week is massively excessive for psychedelic drugs - for any drug, really, but I tend to think you've got to be particularly careful with psychedelics because of the way they can affect you emotionally and psychologically.

I'd also say that if you're doing 2C four nights a week, you're rendered pretty much incapable of doing much at all for half your life... they kick out a hell of a headf*ck do those chemicals.

Also remember they're relatively new drugs and still listed as research chemicals in the UK. We have little to no knowledge of the long-term risks of 2Cs, which is as good a reason as any to go easy on them.

More than anything, I'd be worried that you're more comfortable in a world of swirling colours and melting faces than normal, comfortable, everyday life...
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romperfly: the 2Cs are a family of synthetic phenethylamines somewhat resembling a 'man-made' mescaline, molecularly. The effects very slightly from chemical to chemical, but largely the effects could be considered a cross between LSD and amphetamine.

[rockaroni]

As far as I'm aware, the 2C family aren't meant to be physically addictive, but psychologically. And to be honest, they're not drugs to be played around with. So (in my opinion) 4 days a week is too often. Are you not gradually getting a tolerance to them? If you're taking more to get to the same level it's not a good sign. But as Lewis said, there just hasn't been enough research yet to know the long term effects of taking drugs like those (in this case, they're class A for a reason)

Also, I know it's not what you want to hear but there are 3 reports of people dying from 2C-T-7, (on Erowid) so PLEASE be careful.

[blindseer]

ive done 2c-i 2c-e 2c-p...and a bunch more...be careful dude..i oded on 2c-p..almost died myself....there isnt any physical addictions with those drugs....but they take a toll on ur body.....the 2c family are phenethylamines which means they most likely speedy.....ive heard of many ppl have heart problems

[Lewis The Second]

Yep, phenethylamines are (with a few notable exceptions eg. mescaline) stimulant drugs which speed up the heart on top of the other, more 'desirable' effects. I was going to say try measuring your heartrate next time you take 2C, but that's probably be a bit of a weird experience, so don't. Just slow down, as everyone's advised.