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Old 02-04-2008, 12:54 PM   #1
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Implications of being Sectioned?

How does being sectioned under the Mental Health Act effect your future prospects? Does it affect your ability to get loans/morgages
or travel abroad or have a certain career?

Also, if your 17 would you be sectioned under the Child Mental Health Act or the Adult one?

I haven't been sectioned but I'm currantly an informal Inpatient on a adult mental health ward
(I'm 17 and they don't have adolecent ones in Liverpool) and last week after an, incident (tried to drown myself ) , I was asking to leave, they wouldn't let me and I made such a fuss they called a doctor in
but by the time they got on the ward I'd stopped asking to leave,
I was told afterwards that If I'd have carried on asking to go the doctor would have just sectioned me.

So I'm thinking, phew! Because I've heard that being sectioned can affect a lot of things in your life later on and I'm quite nervous ove how close I came to being sectioned.

Does anyone have any info over this?



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Old 02-04-2008, 04:29 PM   #2
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I think you can't go to certain places abroad (I think america is one of them) if you are sectioned on a section 3. I dont think it would affect your job choices because it might be classed as discrimination.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:25 PM   #3
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if you go on a section3 you cant go to the US and i few other places.
but i know people who have been on a section3 who have been to the US so maybe things have changed.



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Old 02-04-2008, 08:31 PM   #4
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(Don't want to take the topic to other places, so I'll just ask quickly: What's section 3 and where can't you go? Sorry, I'm curious.)



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Old 02-04-2008, 09:47 PM   #5
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yep my section 3 was actually lifted today :D but yeh.. it is virtually impossible to get into the USA, well.. you have to apply for a visa etcetc.. v complicated. It can limit your job options. You're not allowed to do anything medical/healthcare wise for 2 years after you have been problem free.I think its hard to become a teacher too. It is just THE mental health act, (1983) same for everyone... i know people who've been 13 and under section 3. I tried to avoid it for a long time. I was an informal inpatient for.. 4 months first, with several obsconsions, suicide attempts, severe self harm etcetc. At the begginning of December i was really really getting tired of struggling with my eating.. so i just stopped alltogether.. after a week i collapsed, wassectioned and tube fed. Ugh. but yeh. They can lock you up in the most horrendous places too.. ive been in a secure unit.. probs best at the time.. just scary. Ummm... i'm gunna stop waffling now... but if you have any questions at all, i'd be happy to help.. i'm 17 too, so same rules would apply to you as me. Good luck, PM me anytime, Emma



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Old 02-04-2008, 11:47 PM   #6
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section 3 is 6months treatment i think.
section 2 is 28days assessment
section 4 is 72hours observtion

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Old 02-04-2008, 11:56 PM   #7
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^^ yep



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Old 03-04-2008, 09:00 AM   #8
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whats section 1?



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Old 04-04-2008, 09:53 AM   #9
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It does affect your future job prospects - simply because it shows you've had a mental illness at one point. The sickening thing is that an ex-convict has been chances of getting a job than someone who suffered and fully recovered from a mental illness. It shouldn't happen. Yes, it is discrimination. But it does.






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Old 04-04-2008, 06:52 PM   #10
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they cant use it against you when you go for a job.



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Old 04-04-2008, 10:57 PM   #11
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If section 3 can limit things, what does being on section 2 do to you? And what does a stay in a secure unit on the grounds that I was dangerous to other people do to my future prospects? Who has access to my medical records?

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Old 05-04-2008, 12:03 AM   #12
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they cant use it against you when you go for a job.
Welcome to the real world: they can and constantly do. They just don't say it. They give vague reasons or write you standard letters of rejection, but the real reason is a mental disorder, as soon as you're diagnosed your files are out in the open.

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Old 05-04-2008, 07:32 PM   #13
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so is sec 2 b3tter than 3?
I'm on a 2 but i'm gonna try and appeal cos i rally don't wanna be in hospital



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Old 05-04-2008, 10:28 PM   #14
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well they are both bad a section2 is better than a section3.
a section3 can make life hard.



" my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never, never leave you during your times of trials and suffering. When you see only one set of footprints it was then that I carried you" you were carried out of are lifes into the next and when its my time to leave this life I know i will be carried into the next life with you.
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:13 AM   #15
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If section 3 can limit things, what does being on section 2 do to you? And what does a stay in a secure unit on the grounds that I was dangerous to other people do to my future prospects? Who has access to my medical records?
I know they can see section records at airports. like going into the USA... we can't! um.. it's not just on our medical records... but others too.. i'm not sure... but yea. I'd like to find out too.
(p.s. i'm out of huntercombe)



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Old 06-04-2008, 09:36 AM   #16
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I know they can see section records at airports. like going into the USA... we can't! um.. it's not just on our medical records... but others too.. i'm not sure... but yea. I'd like to find out too.
(p.s. i'm out of huntercombe)
Thanks for telling me. What was Huntercombe like? Was the doctor still Dr. Clapham? How are you now?

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Old 06-04-2008, 05:21 PM   #17
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Thanks for telling me. What was Huntercombe like? Was the doctor still Dr. Clapham? How are you now?
It was absolute hell!! erm no, the docs were.. Dr Jonsson and Steve Hopkins.
I'm ok... a bit shell shocked... but ok!



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Old 06-04-2008, 05:48 PM   #18
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I just got cleared for a job at my local library, part time, saturday type thing. I've only been on holding power sections, but it took about five months to clear me, I had to have a letter from my gp, consultant, social worker, specialist, it was ****. And I had to see a nurse, doctor, fill in loads of forms. Etc.

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I just got cleared for a job at my local library, part time, saturday type thing. I've only been on holding power sections, but it took about five months to clear me, I had to have a letter from my gp, consultant, social worker, specialist, it was ****. And I had to see a nurse, doctor, fill in loads of forms. Etc.

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I'm sorry that you had to go through that. It is good that you got the job though.

I was on section 135 yesterday, I think. Or 136, I can't remember. It was too blurry yesterday.

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It was absolute hell!! erm no, the docs were.. Dr Jonsson and Steve Hopkins.
I'm ok... a bit shell shocked... but ok!
It can be really hellish. If you don't mind, could you explain to me why it was hellish? I'm glad that you're back and you can PM me if you want, or I'm on MSN: thecryptofascist@hotmail.com .
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