As some people know, recently the uni student thread was closed for about a week?! I personally was not very happy about the way that this was done and have been given no real assurances that this could not happen again.
As this is a thread which is frequented by many members of the forum in order to get support, I feel that it should not be treated the same way as a normal thread in that the OP can ask for it to be closed or deleted.
There are many similar threads such as the Hero Brigade, Borderline Personality Disorder Thread, The Safe Room and I wondered whether there was any way that these could perhaps be treated differently- as so many members use them.
OK so I may have waffled and I apologise if I have phrased things badly but I would be interested to hear other peoples opinions on this and perhaps hear from mods on whether this could be possible.
Last edited by ChocolateMarvel : 11-07-2012 at 10:57 PM.
Reason: More examples!
I agree with the first bit about the way it was done.
I also agree with you that it should be done differently as many people use them threads for support etc so that should be taken into acount when taking action/changing stuff.
I agree that this was done very suddenly without any warning, and to be honest, that threw me a bit. I personally felt bad, and was under the impression, deluded or not, that I personally had done something wrong.
This could just have been me being an idiot, but due to the nature of this site... I think one has to be careful with feelings. If I felt that, I can't imagine what other people may have felt or could feel should this happen again, to this thread or another one.
I know I sound wishy washy, but I think that the Uni Student Thread being closed upset a lot of people unnecessarily, if only because it wasn't forewarned. Bottom line of my waffle.
"And sometimes when our fights begin,
I think I'll let the Dragons win...
And then I think perhaps I won't,
Because they're Dragons, and I don't."
It was closed at the thread starters request, Im not sure how else it could have been handled?If someone wants their thread closed its their right to have that wish granted, I dont think it would be very fair to deny them that request.
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
That is the point I am trying to make. Is it fair that because someone started a thread, they should be allowed to get it closed even if it is not an individual support thread. I would totally understand if it was an individual support thread but this is a thread which is used by many members for support and suddenly that support was taken away.
I understand that that may be procedure but perhaps that needs to be changed with respect to threads such as I mentioned in my first post. I know many people have felt lost without that thread and I am only now at the stage where I feel able to post again. This week I have felt, as Ailsa has also mentioned that I had done something wrong. For many people, their safe place was taken away and that is wrong regardless of procedure.
It was closed at the thread starters request, Im not sure how else it could have been handled?If someone wants their thread closed its their right to have that wish granted, I dont think it would be very fair to deny them that request.
I think this is the point. I think some threads are different because they evolve independently from their creator. The thread wasn't about it's OP, and was never meant to be.
"And sometimes when our fights begin,
I think I'll let the Dragons win...
And then I think perhaps I won't,
Because they're Dragons, and I don't."
I've seen other threads like this be closed before (can't think of one off the top of my head) that the OP says (when they close it) "feel free to reopen/remake this thread, but it's run it's course now."
I'll go see if I can find the thread I'm thinking of.
It doesn't matter where you come from; it matters where you go.
No-one gets remembered for the things they didn't do.
We won't all be here this time next year,
so while you can take a picture of us.
We're definitely going to hell,
but we'll have all the best stories to tell.
To put another spin on it I start a thread on xyz and it takes off and becomes very popular. I then decide to leave RYL and in time decide that I would like all posts made by me deleted. Then it is my right for xyz to be deleted and if it wasn't then that is really harsh for anyone whose thread inadvertantly or otherwise becomes a success. In this situation I would imagine the mods would give warning and a new thread would be started.
But RYL has always worked on the fact that a thread can be deleted or locked at the thread starters request and I would be really against this being changed.
When we lose twenty pounds... we may be losing the twenty best pounds we have! We may be losing the pounds that contain our genius, our humanity, our love and honesty. ~Woody Allen
Is a chocolate muffin loving glitter ball
That is the point I am trying to make. Is it fair that because someone started a thread, they should be allowed to get it closed even if it is not an individual support thread. I would totally understand if it was an individual support thread but this is a thread which is used by many members for support and suddenly that support was taken away.
I understand that that may be procedure but perhaps that needs to be changed with respect to threads such as I mentioned in my first post. I know many people have felt lost without that thread and I am only now at the stage where I feel able to post again. This week I have felt, as Ailsa has also mentioned that I had done something wrong. For many people, their safe place was taken away and that is wrong regardless of procedure.
I understand its your point, but what Im saying is that yes I think it is fair that someone has the right to have their own thread closed regardless of whether other people use it for support.
I think its important to think how you would feel as the thread starter, you make a thread that had a vision and that was lost and so you dont want it to carry on and you want it closed. You ask the mods and they refuse....I dont think you (or anyone else) would be happy with that.
Surely its unfair to deny someone the right to choose whether their thread is closed or not?As the creator of it it should be their choice, in my opinion.
What do you think the procedure should be?
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
To put another spin on it I start a thread on xyz and it takes off and becomes very popular. I then decide to leave RYL and in time decide that I would like all posts made by me deleted. Then it is my right for xyz to be deleted and if it wasn't then that is really harsh for anyone whose thread inadvertantly or otherwise becomes a success. In this situation I would imagine the mods would give warning and a new thread would be started.
But RYL has always worked on the fact that a thread can be deleted or locked at the thread starters request and I would be really against this being changed.
Yes. I think for all threads two sets of people should be taken into consideration. The people who created the thread, and the people seeking support form said thread. Sometimes these people are the same person, other times not. To be honest, I do think the OP should have the right to close their threads. But if that thread is being used for support by other people, then I think a warning, explanation, and invitation to create a new similar thread if desired would be nice...
Last edited by Ailsa : 11-07-2012 at 11:38 PM.
Reason: Typo
"And sometimes when our fights begin,
I think I'll let the Dragons win...
And then I think perhaps I won't,
Because they're Dragons, and I don't."
I think that people were not invited to create a similar thread because there was a strong chance of the thread being reopened.
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
Ah, here is the example: the RYL House.
This was the last post.
Quote:
Dear RYL house,
I know the closing of this thread might come as a shock to some of you but I just feel it's time for it to be left to die a peaceful death. This thread has meant so much to me over the last year or so, has given me some of the best times and I've met the most amazing people and I wouldn't change it for the world. This thread has, in many ways, saved my life, and I will continue to love and remember the good times we've had.
Anybody should feel free to re-make the house in the future, just as I did with this thread, but I feel that many of us have parted ways and this version of the house should now be laid to rest.
Love and hugs to all.
RIP RYL house V2 <3
It doesn't matter where you come from; it matters where you go.
No-one gets remembered for the things they didn't do.
We won't all be here this time next year,
so while you can take a picture of us.
We're definitely going to hell,
but we'll have all the best stories to tell.
I agree that a thread starter should have the right to close/lock a thread, especially if they feel that it has gone off-topic and it doesn't do what it was made for.
However, I don't really understand how a uni student thread could be used for support during the holidays, but thats just me.
I guess for people who have failed/have to retake the year/have found out they got into uni/taking exams to get into uni etc etc!x
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
OK I am going to leave this for tonight because again I feel like it is not being listened to. Its like noone is listening to the fact that a lot of people were hurt and upset by this. And on a site which is meant for support this angers me.
The only sensible thing I can say right now is that perhaps after a thread has taken off to a certain point such as 1000 with more than x members posting, it becomes a universal thread- 'owned' for want of a better word by the regular posters. Obviously if its about someones personal stuff ie My Uni Stuff that is totally different to the 'lets all post about uni stuff'.
I agree that a thread starter should have the right to close/lock a thread, especially if they feel that it has gone off-topic and it doesn't do what it was made for.
However, I don't really understand how a uni student thread could be used for support during the holidays, but thats just me.
Just a quick point on this, I was led to believe that this was the case however a sufficient number of posters on the thread have said they aren't on holidays and whilst I don't post on the thread I am a student and I am certainly not on holiday.
When we lose twenty pounds... we may be losing the twenty best pounds we have! We may be losing the pounds that contain our genius, our humanity, our love and honesty. ~Woody Allen
Is a chocolate muffin loving glitter ball
OK I am going to leave this for tonight because again I feel like it is not being listened to. Its like noone is listening to the fact that a lot of people were hurt and upset by this. And on a site which is meant for support this angers me.
The only sensible thing I can say right now is that perhaps after a thread has taken off to a certain point such as 1000 with more than x members posting, it becomes a universal thread- 'owned' for want of a better word by the regular posters. Obviously if its about someones personal stuff ie My Uni Stuff that is totally different to the 'lets all post about uni stuff'.
Im sorry you feel like youre not being listened to. I dont think anyone is unaware that people were hurt by this but I do think its important to have perspective about it....it wasnt an attack on anyone in the thread and the thread is reopened now.
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
