this is hugely pointless. but what the ****. i need to rant, and this somehow seems more productive than doing it in R/V, i do that so much its lost meaning.
anyway.
im seeing my community psych tomorrow. im asking for a second opinion on my diagnosis.
ive been told by a few people now that they do not think i have BPD. i am not 'fine' all the time, who is, but i dont think im so 'not fine' that it warrants a diagnosis of any kind.
now ive been told by someone that if i see a 2nd opinion doctor, then it is likely i will be sectioned, but i do not believe this is true, and im pretty sure this person has an ulterior motive of some kind. (whole different story, ill shut up about that)
i just want to scream at someone I DONT HAVE BPD!!
i do MBT therapy, its a new therapy, and i do enjoy it, but the majority of the things they talk about, things that are 'typically BPD' and things that all the other ladies in the group can relate to, i cant relate to. doesnt apply to me at all. my emotions arent even controlled by my actual brain.
ive had different diagnosis with pretty much every psych since i was 11 years old. depression, psychotic depression, schizophrenia, OCD, bulimia, complex PTSD, BPD w/psychosis.
i acutally wasnt even assessed for this diagnosis. they came up to me one day, and said, you now have BPD. i wasnt well, so didnt question.
but now, especially with being involved with social services, i dont need the weight of an unnecessary diagnosis on my shoulders.
ok, im sorry for this, i just needed to get it out!!!
I'm fine! Totally fine. I don't know why it's coming out all loud and squeaky, 'cause really, I'm fine!
I know that in some cases a BPD label is appropriate but it is the diagnosis that they just hand out to anyone they find a little difficult to work with. Honestly, there are so many people in your position. It sucks. And I really don't agree with them saying that if you see someone else you will get sectioned. If they are actually assessing you under the MHA then they should say that, if not they shouldn't threaten it.
I've heard that some psychs actually only diagnose you with things when it helps for insurance reasons. Apparently, some insurance companies will only cover if there is "something wrong" or if you have a MH diagnosis... It's weird, though.
I've been diagnosed with BPD a couple of months ago and I felt the same way that you did, but recently my psych told me that the purpose of my diagnosis was for insurance reasons, and that I needed to have a "label" for insurance to cover my treatment.
I don't think it is fair or helpful to say it is a diagnosis that they just hand out to anyone they find a little difficult to work with.
PF- had you got an advocate that could support you?
The thing is, whatever your diagnosis, social services will want to be involved because of your history of self abuse and self neglect. Label aside, there are genuine concerns about how you will look after a child.
Pick your battles; I can appreciate feeling labeled wrongly, but would not having the label make a whole lot of difference to treatment. Would contesting it cause more problems you don't need? A lot of therapies can be applied to many situations and illnesses, maybe ask how you can adapt it to your symptoms rather than your diagnosis.
Katie- The person who said this believes that i will be sectioned if i talk to someone independent about the things i talk to him about. I do not believe i will be sectioned. Ive been on 8 or 9 S3's, all lasting the full 6 months, renewed also. Except the one this year, which only lasted 3 months. The point being, each of these times, i have been either an immediate danger to myself or others. This time, i am neither of those things, and i dont think things i say could be interpreted in that way. Plus i go to rehab every day for therapy ( i would be IP, but its too much risk with my being pregnant, none of the patients are supposed to know). Its all very confusing.
Rawiyah- I dont think this applies to me, as i am under the NHS. But i think this does apply in other areas. Ive known people to be given a diagnosis just so a doctor can justify giving a certain medication.
startingagain- I think that sometimes psychs do actually do that. It's like they know something isnt quite 'right' but they cant put their finger on it. Not in every case, obviously, but some. Ive been meaning to contact advocacy for another reason, so i will mention this also. That is a very good idea :)
MissAnonymous- You are absolutely right, they will still be involved regardless of my diagnosis. I dont think it would cause many more issues (unless they decide to diagnose me with schizophrenia again, social services would freak out, because they dont know much about MH and there is a lot of stigma around some illnesses.)
i would still get the same therapy etc, because the hospital i go to during the day is definatley not your average hospital e.g fighting/cushion fights with the manager (all in good spirit) also the fact that they have never, ever taken a pregnant woman as a patient. I am the first and only day patient they have had.
They wouldnt have done this is they didnt know me from before, so i am very grateful to them. and dont want to throw it back in their faces.
Getting rid of my diagnosis would make a huge difference to me personally though.
I'm fine! Totally fine. I don't know why it's coming out all loud and squeaky, 'cause really, I'm fine!
Hi Becky. Do you agree with some/any of the diagnoses you've been given? Psychology/psychiatry is hard; people don't fit in nice neat little boxes very well, and it's can be hard to decide what's wrong when there isn't a nice quick and easy test for it. It sounds like they've 'tried' a lot of diagnoses, which must be pretty frustrating.
It's always worth asking for a second opinion, and I hope it goes better tomorrow.
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hey there Pink Frued,
Would you be willing to give me a run down of your symptoms and I can check with my DSM to see if you meet the criteria for BPD. I am not qualified to give you a diagnosis but I can check the criteria for you. If you don't want to post your symptoms here, you can pm me if you'd like. Or you can just wait to have a professional do it. But I'm here if you want me to check.
Sophia- i don't think any of these diagnoses have been remotely accurate. I don' think i should have any diagnosis! It is really frustrating, because most of the time, when they have made up their mind, that's it, you're screwed! I'm still going to ask today, my psych is a @$£^"$~#! but i'm pretty sure there are patients rights or something that i'm allowed a second opinion.
Lynn-Thankyou, but I'm really not aware of any symptoms i may have. I self harm, that's the only thing i really know isn't 'normal'. (although i'm sure some things e.g smoking can be classed as a much more serious self harm, but one that is socially acceptable)
I'm fine! Totally fine. I don't know why it's coming out all loud and squeaky, 'cause really, I'm fine!
I don't think it is fair or helpful to say it is a diagnosis that they just hand out to anyone they find a little difficult to work with.
I meant no offense. It's just a controversial diagnosis, there is a lot of stigma around it, people do get completely discharged from services because of the label and it seems to be a diagnosis that is handed out very quickly a lot of the time.
hey there Pink Frued,
Would you be willing to give me a run down of your symptoms and I can check with my DSM to see if you meet the criteria for BPD. I am not qualified to give you a diagnosis but I can check the criteria for you. If you don't want to post your symptoms here, you can pm me if you'd like. Or you can just wait to have a professional do it. But I'm here if you want me to check.
Just, no.
I'm sorry but that's probably the least helpful thing.
Anyone can get a copy of the DSM and start checking symptoms. That's not all that goes into a diagnosis and it's not helpful.
Isn’t it funny how day by day nothing changes but when you look back, everything is different…
you once called your brain a hard drive, well say hello to the virus.
so i saw my psych today, and asked for the second opinion. It was slightly awkward, as he said i have already been under all the psychiatrists in the local area, as in, i have been under their care at least once.
i thought that it couldnt possibly be the case, but as he listed all the psychs in the area, it turns out i actually have seen all of them at least once *facepalm*
but he is respecting my right to a second opinion, and has asked if one of the doctors at the rehab i go to can assess/review me. I have been under one of them, but there is a new one who i haven't been involved with before, so he may do it.
but he also described me saying that the chip controls my emotions as an 'odd' thought. so he doesnt believe me either. also, in my discharge report from hospital this year, all the 'odd' thoughts have been documented. this is irritating.
but, i have also been described as a 'model patient!' as in, i am complying with the conditions of my community treatment order and not pushing boundaries.
he said he thinks i should come of my community treatment order (looks good for social services) and he would have taken me off, but several people, he won't tell me who, have e-mailed him expressing concerns about me not being under any mental health act at all.
mixed meeting!
I'm fine! Totally fine. I don't know why it's coming out all loud and squeaky, 'cause really, I'm fine!
