Clustering system for mental health

I am a cat · 01-02-2012, 09:38 PM

Were all going to die. Well I dont know about you lot but I am...

What do you guys think:

http://apps.facebook.com/theguardian...orned-clusters

http://www.dh.gov.uk/prod_consum_dh/.../dh_130387.pdf

MissAnonymous · 01-02-2012, 09:54 PM

I've heard about this in the sense that my partners CPN warned her that it may be in 2 years she'll be forced to stop seeing her not through retirement but the re-organisation of how mental health services are delivered.

It wont effect me because I don't get support any more, but I can imagine it would shake up other people who have become reliant on the same people within services.

I am unsure of what to make of it. It certainly sounds like they want people to fit into risk/diagnosis boxes and this just isn't going to work in my opinion. I mean, when I was first unwell my psychiatrist wouldn't give me one diagnosis but rather said I had issues with depression, AN and OCD. And that the amalgamation of the three created the severity of my problems. I don't see how I could be catagorised based on that!

whirlpools · 02-02-2012, 12:04 AM

I don't think my team would know which cluster to put me into. They're making it really black-and-white.

Don't know if it's just my area, but MH services are 'eroding' anyway. And with all the changes to benefits coming into play... well, feels like there's a lot of stress ahead.

Steel Maiden · 02-02-2012, 09:18 AM

I'm not sure what I would be put in either. I got pretty much told by my psychotherapist that they may not accept me for long-term therapy (I was being assessed) because of my Asperger's and how that therapy would be unsuitable etc. After thinking about it, I'm wondering if they're trying to reduce costs in my case......I'm just fortunate that I get support from the National Autistic Society. As for my mental health support, I'm not sure what will happen.

Leni · 02-02-2012, 08:25 PM

My God, I never want to see the word 'cluster' ever again.

Mrs Sam · 03-02-2012, 10:40 AM

My therapist told me about this. She even told me which cluster i'd fit into (i think it was 8). She asked if it sounded less scary than the way it is now and i said yes but just because i didnt understand what it all meant! Anyway, she seemed skeptical herself and said they'd probably find a different system soon enough and not to worry. She also said it wouldn't affect me much but i dont know if thats because i'm technically seeing her when i shouldnt anyway!

~Grace~ · 03-02-2012, 02:29 PM

I dont understand it, cant take it in....but whatever is going to happen is going to happen and I cant change that so im not thinking about it

Steel Maiden · 03-02-2012, 07:44 PM

A year ago, my social worker told me that if I were to get better from psychosis, I would still be supported by the CMHT for my Asperger's, because she said to me that it causes me quite significant disability.

Now I am not sure what would happen if I got better from my psychosis, with this stupid clustering system.

Gofeen · 03-02-2012, 10:06 PM

Does this apply to Scotland too or is it just England? Anyone know?

Fry · 04-02-2012, 06:29 AM

I'm just glad I discharged myself from the MH Services 3 years ago.

sherlock holmes · 04-02-2012, 05:24 PM

The NHS is turning more and more into a business model.

People's health is not a ****ing business.

Fry · 04-02-2012, 09:12 PM

^ there's no getting away from the fact that money will always be a fundamental deciding factor of all changes made to the NHS.It doesn't run on thin air :p
Tbh it is a business, but easy to get emotional about it from a patient's perspective. Especially when it's the MH sector being altered.