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Old 01-09-2007, 12:27 AM   #1
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SI isnt my problem its everyone elses.

dose anyone ever feel like if there was no stigma attached to it, they would be alot happier simply cutting and going out with wounds.

if it was accepted as a personal choice and people wouldnt think you were crazy i would have such few problems.

cutting works for me, I almost never go too deep and I always feel an almost euphoric sensation afterwards. the only downside is societies opinion of it.

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Old 01-09-2007, 12:39 AM   #2
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I think that a lot of people feel this way. I know that I did when when I self injured. I hated being viewed in the public the way that I was because of what I had under my sleeves.

I am not saying that I commend cutting in any way, obviously. But not being scrutinized by everyone "out there" would have made a lot of my issues seem less severe, and maybe it would have been easier to recover.





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Old 01-09-2007, 11:07 AM   #3
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I think it would be easier to go round with scars if there was less stigma, but I don't think it would make cutting 'ok'.

Like Something Vague (don't know your name sorry!) said, it would make it seem fine and healthy to do, and it could encourage other people who don't SI to think that it's good.

I would never go out with fresh wounds on show, stigma or no stigma, I don't think it's fair on other people. Scars are different, but wounds could trigger other SIers and also people might be squeamish or not like the site of blood or anything like that.

There are more downsides to SI than just social stigmas, it may work in the short term, but you still have the same problems which, while you SI, you aren't really learning to deal with.

I hate the way people judge you on scars and I don't like society's view that you're 'crazy' if you self harm, but at the same time, SI isn't really normal when you think about it, so should it really be viewed as an ok thing for everyone to do?



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Old 01-09-2007, 03:31 PM   #4
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I think that's an unhealthy mindset to have. society's view on it isn't the only problem. the bigger problem is that it isn't a healthy way to cope with your feelings, just like drinking and drugs aren't a healthy way to cope. whether you scratch yourself or cut off a limb, it's still destructive. by putting the blame on the stigma attached to self-harm isn't a good idea, because it's normalising it and making it seem fine and healthy and it'll be harder to get out of the pattern.

of course if there was no stigma surrounding self-harm it would take away problems like going out with scars and stuff, but it wouldn't take away the problems which cause you to self-harm in the first place.
I second this. Completely.
Self harm is a serious problem. Even if people understood why we did it that wouldn't make it "okay".

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Old 01-09-2007, 03:34 PM   #5
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dose anyone ever feel like if there was no stigma attached to it, they would be alot happier simply cutting and going out with wounds.

if it was accepted as a personal choice and people wouldnt think you were crazy i would have such few problems.

cutting works for me, I almost never go too deep and I always feel an almost euphoric sensation afterwards. the only downside is societies opinion of it.
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:01 PM   #6
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Yeah. sometimes i think its everyone elses problem that they dont like SI. Its my way of dealing with **** so its no-one elses business.

But, realistically, its not a healthy way to deal with things. Harming yourself must mean you have very little respect for yourself, and to be honest, we should all feel worthy. And really, cutting doesnt solve anything. the problems are still there
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:43 PM   #7
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I don't know, I know it's not healthy to be so dependent on SI and I know it's not a good thing to do.
I still don't think I would go out with fresh wounds on show. I cant imagine myself ever doing that. =/
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:18 PM   #8
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i agree to an extent.
just because i remember having to lie to everyone... i still have lots of anxiety when i have to meet new people & what they'll think of my scars.

worrying if they'll believe your excuses, having to be so secretive.
it is alot of extra weight. which at least a couple times probably led me to cut again.

but its not good to hurt yourself, its a way of dealing with issues without dealing with anything. its just transferrence, really.

well... i dont even think that there would be a way for society to live around it, even as someone who has done it and wont pass judgement on someone being "crazy" or what have you... i still cant stand to know that the person is hurting so badly.

interesting to think about though.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:30 PM   #9
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if it was accepted as a personal choice and people wouldnt think you were crazy i would have such few problems.
This strikes me as being almost the same as the statement that Anorexia (Nervosa) is a "lifestyle choice".

The removal of stigma would certainly help those in the position of fear/anxiety over their self harm and would hopefully help them with what they're going through; but self harm is not healthy. Self harm can range (as has been stated) from removing limbs and severing tendons, to scratches and smoking; so whilst that is detrimental to someone's health, i can't see the behaviour being condoned, unless there are extremely special circumstances, such as self harm being the lesser of two evils when someone is one the verge of commiting suicide.

Self harm at it's core is a coping mechanism and you have said that yourself in saying that the behaviour gives you relief, but in saying that, there are other activities that can help relieve what is going on, though i admit it can take a long time in order to find that. Not just that though, but there are (almost always) root causes to self harm and so you would probably find that with the right help, you wouldn't actually have a need to self harm.

Stigma doesn't, i feel, have all that much to do with self harm, because the behaviour stems from a root cause, rather than the desire to be used as an accepted coping mechanism. Does that make sense? Self harm is rarely, in the first instance, a concious decision as a coping method. Hmn, i don't think i'm explaining myself terribly well.



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