Triggering (Suicide) - Do you find your crisis team/other crisis services effective?
Every time I phone my crisis team when I am suicidal they tell me to go and watch TV, which isn't helpful at all. On Thursday I was so close to suicide and they told me to go home and make my brother's dinner. They have been helpful in some respects as they took me to A&E twice. Then the problem starts with the Psychiatric Assessment Team in A&E. They generally don't believe what I am saying.
Again on Thursday I saw someone from the team and as soon as he came in he said "I won't keep you long." Even though I was sure I was about to kill myself he was willing to let me go home. He asked me to use coping strategies that I have used before and I told him that I had never felt so bad. He said that I say that all of the time and that I do feel the same way it just seems worse. It WAS worse. He asked me when I was due to see my psychiatrist and I told him that I wasn't going to see him because I was going to kill myself, he then said that I had told him that but when is my appointment anyway. After I told him he told me that I could go. It made me even more determined to kill myself.
So, I can't go back to A&E again because they won't take me seriously and I don't want to phone the crisis team just to get silly advice. Who then am I supposed to go to in a crisis? They are supposed to be there to help yet they don't. I have heard similar stories but just wondered how other people find their crisis services.
I put it down on paper and then the ghost does not ache so much.
Don't try to calm the storm, calm yourself, the storm will pass.
i know how u feel hun when i have been assesed by crisis team after beeing admitted from a OD or SI they have to asses me to see if they can let me go home and even if im sat there going totally insane saying im going to kill my self again or if they say are u going to do it again if we let u go and even if i say yes after the assesment they discharge me either way which makes me feel 10x crappier than ever i generally end up running away from A&E
i mean they are meant to help they ask me what they should do to make me not hurt myself i mean wtf dont ask me ....................sory i ranted on but they are no help and look at u like ur a fake ..............
sorry u had bad exspierences to
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From what I've heard Crisis Teams can be very hit and miss. I just think that it must be such a draining job and one slip up of saying the wrong thing can have such an impact on a person in distress. You do get some rubbish people who don't care, who shouldn't be working there (I know of some at ours...) but they're not all like that. They see people in a crisis all day and it must be very stressful, and you must get somewhat desensitized to it. They're only human and I'm sure they're not doing it to be mean. Saying that you do get some brilliant people working there too. It really all depends who you get.
I think they should have an automated message to say "distract yourself". Save them time answering the phone.
That's pretty much what they say all the time to me anyway. Sometimes they don't even ask why your feeling like 'this' or why your having these thoughts? And just an automatic response "distract yourself". This is what pisses me off. People assume that you can distract yourself when you are feeling like this, but seriously your concentration and motivation have gone off the rails, so you can't distract yourself.
Anyway that's how i feel anyway..about the crisis team.
"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." - W. Gibson.
When any decent therapist knows that supporting people to safely stay with difficult feelings is far more deep and supportive of life affirming change than running away from it all the time in distractions.
I'm sorry you've had such bad experiences. I agree that it must be a stressful job but still don't think it's okay for you to be treated like that. I hope you do find someone who's willing to listen to you.
I've had a really good experience with the crisis team here. I haven't always co-operated with them as much as I could have but they've always been kind, never seemed annoyed when I've been less than honest with them. They've taken lots of time to call and visit even when I've felt like I'm wasting their time. I've only called them once (it takes a lot for me to call someone when I'm having a crisis, so it says a lot about them that I felt able to) and the woman I spoke to was really good and came round straight away. I ended up being admitted and they were supportive when I was on leave and one of them came in to see various people and basically got me discharged when I hadn't seen the drs for ages, and took me home :)
So yeah, I've had a brilliant experience with them actually, they've been really helpful and I'm not sure where I'd be without them, they quite possibly saved my life.
I wish everyone could have such a positive experience.
Luckly for me my CT arent that bad , saying that i have only met them once when i was admitted to the ward for an od. The first thing he said was ' you seem pissed off?' actually i was very very pissed off and if i had not been so depressed i could have flipped. But genrally they were okay i agreed to 'do this' as in sit there and get 21 questions fired at you , though most i lied about. But anyhow there okay whenever i go in there for SH they always ask if i want to see the crisis team and before a nurse was quite concerned and nearly did not let me go but she had spoken to the crisis team and her words were 'as i have spoken to the crisis team and they asked me weather you were going to do anything silly and i was like i dont know' so i suppose they do take me seriously just most times am scared to open my mouth because of what could happen.
I saw the crisis team whilst I was in hospital and I found that whilst I liked most of the nurses the system was bizarrre eg they would come on a Friday and say we'll come early next week but I didn't see them till the end of the following week.
I hate the idea of people of coming to my house so after discharge I didn't see them again so my experience of them was entirely linked to my hospitilisation.
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ive had a bit of both with my crisis team. On occasions where ive been screaming out for help and they have just left me to get on with it. But when ive been particularly bad, they have been great. I guess its a case of understanding that they cant actually DO anything to change the way you feel but if you get the decent ones they will do their best to support you. Most of the time i work with them but when ive been excessively ill and basically told them where to go, they got me sectioned, which to be fair i needed at the time.
I agree with the 'distract yourself' comment, i get that generally a lot from my social worker etc and it just doesnt work. In fact 'take a hot bath' seems to have become a running joke between us now. Its not helpful at all but in reality what else can they say? not that im excusing it either.
Who is your crisis team made up of? Mine is totally made up of support workers so they can't assess anyone. If someone needs to be assessed they have to go to A&E to see the psychiatric assessment team.
Does your crisis team have a psychologist in it? I have plans to continue studying psychology but i'd also like to work within a crisis team, maybe give some better support than telling someone to go and watch TV.
I put it down on paper and then the ghost does not ache so much.
Don't try to calm the storm, calm yourself, the storm will pass.
