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Old 05-05-2010, 09:41 PM   #1
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Trigger labels.

just wondering, how come there's a mildly triggering (ED) & a severely triggering (ED) trigger warnings but only 1 trigger warning for SH?

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Old 06-05-2010, 08:21 PM   #2
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That's a very good question. Maybe the mods thought that only one was really necessary?




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Old 06-05-2010, 08:31 PM   #3
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I think I have already mentioned this before, but mildly and severely are not easily defined so I see little point in having both. *Graphic* and *Severely triggering ED* would be better [if we still need two] in my opinion, however I have a feeling that with the way the ED has become, allowing *Graphic* may encourage *some* people to dramatacise and overtly & unessarsily describe what they are doing to themselves [which can appear as tip sharing].

Though I dont know why there is just one for SH but I dont see the need for two, do you?

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Old 06-05-2010, 08:37 PM   #4
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I think there's a fine line between "mild" and "severe". I think it also depends on people's perception of what they're doing or talking about. Whilst someone who (in their own mind) doesn't harm badly, but is still in A&E most nights, they feel that it's not too severe, whereas someone (like me) who has never needed to go to A&E for a self inflicted wound, would consider that to be severe.




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Old 06-05-2010, 08:42 PM   #5
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From what I know many peoples perception of their SH is screwed up anyway so personal judgement isnt accurate at all. But also I wanted to say, level of triggering-ness doesnt always correlate to severity of SH in terms of risk and depth for example.

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Old 06-05-2010, 08:48 PM   #6
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No. In a way I think you're right about not needing two trigger warning labels. Although, in a way, on a self harm site, does it come to any surprise that there's gonna be a post about self harm? IMO, why do we need them at all?




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I think its put because you dont expect to always hear about self harm on the GS&A board so there needs to be a warning for threads that do talk about SH or EDs.

On the SI board I get what you mean though and maybe just *Graphic SH trigger* is needed.

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Old 06-05-2010, 08:55 PM   #8
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Yeah, I think you're right. And no, I wouldn't expect SI to be discussed on GS&A, but that board's not really there for that reason... :-/




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^ Yeah, scratch that. >.<

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Old 06-05-2010, 09:02 PM   #10
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i've always wondered this myself too - and what the difference between them is



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Old 06-05-2010, 09:08 PM   #11
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Yes, I think it's been said for a long time now that the 'mildly' and 'severely' labels are very confusing and largely subjective.

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No. In a way I think you're right about not needing two trigger warning labels. Although, in a way, on a self harm site, does it come to any surprise that there's gonna be a post about self harm? IMO, why do we need them at all?
This. I think it should maybe be used for the more 'graphic' posts, but yeah, you expect there to be talk of self-harm on a site such as this.

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Old 06-05-2010, 09:25 PM   #12
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When I was in the CT i mentioned that trigger lables are pointless, I've never really seen the point.
The only reason I can see them being used is if sexual abuse crosses over into self injury thingy board, and if ed's cross into that, sort've thing.

you should have to label the ed board with ed triggers, cuz funnily enough, that's what the board is there for, to talk about eds.

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Old 06-05-2010, 09:26 PM   #13
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This. I think it should maybe be used for the more 'graphic' posts, but yeah, you expect there to be talk of self-harm on a site such as this.
^^ With that, it could be argued that there would then be confusion as to whether a 'graphic' label was necessary for self-harm.



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Old 06-05-2010, 09:34 PM   #14
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^^ With that, it could be argued that there would then be confusion as to whether a 'graphic' label was necessary for self-harm.
Yes, true.

Labels can be useful if something crosses over, as Tiff said, and can be good for differentiating between, say, sexual abuse or physical abuse which are obviously very different. Or suicide. I personally don't go into any thread that mentions suicide if I can help it. It triggers me beyond belief, so I avoid it.

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There are so many threads about this. Ive been part of 3 or 4 tries to re-do the trigger labels. All of them fell through at one stage or another.

After doing that i learned a few things. RYL is split 50/50 between two groups. You either love trigger labels and think there should be more. (i remember one proposal with boards with 10 labels) or you think we should do away with them.

I think the labels we have now work well to an extent. The biggest problem is that they are over used. Look in SID. Every thread has the trigger label on it. Even if it only references SI or talks about scars. I think the point of the major/minor thing was to show the difference between the passing references and the hard core graphic stuff.




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Old 06-05-2010, 09:42 PM   #16
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I I think the point of the major/minor thing was to show the difference between the passing references and the hard core graphic stuff.
Now that makes a lot of sense to me. And as saying it like that then it could be useful in the SID.




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Old 06-05-2010, 09:45 PM   #17
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Whilst it appears useful, in the ED board it has proven to be quite confusing. There is no clear definition of what is 'severe' or major and what isn't. A passing reference shouldn't really need a label, that's the point of having different forums for different things.

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Personally I don't mind if the trigger labels are there or not as I don't pay attention to them / get triggered. But I think it would be worth defining somewhere what is to be labeled 'mild' or 'severe' etc as each person's opinion of 'severe' for instance will be different depending on experience. Their worst experience that they want to post about might be someone else's least 'severe.'




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Personally I don't mind if the trigger labels are there or not as I don't pay attention to them / get triggered. But I think it would be worth defining somewhere what is to be labeled 'mild' or 'severe' etc as each person's opinion of 'severe' for instance will be different depending on experience. Their worst experience that they want to post about might be someone else's least 'severe.'
Like... for example, sticky threads in each forum explaining what to post there and how to use the labels? Like the ones we have already, but no one bothers to read?

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Like... for example, sticky threads in each forum explaining what to post there and how to use the labels? Like the ones we have already, but no one bothers to read?

Sorry, I couldn't help myself there. ;)
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