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Old 24-01-2010, 04:21 PM   #1
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Triggering (SI) - Can they force treatment on me?

hey,

Probably sound stupid to most but feel I need to give the majority of the story to get a clear answer.

O.k so I have a SI injury that I have been encouraging to get infected. I have refused treatment other than dressing changes (need clean dressings for work), I have got an appointment on Monday and I am just thinking of using that time to go to the pharmacy to buy my own (if I can afford it). My Doctor (in our sessions) has said he thinks I am normal and have normal feelings so he cant section me for treatment right? If he has said I'm not mentally ill.

Because if he can't section me then I will go get the free dressings.

Thanks in advance

I know it sounds a stupid thing to do but it is helping me get through the days and I feel I can't let it heal, and yes I do know It could lead to blood poisoning.


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Old 24-01-2010, 04:50 PM   #2
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It sounds like, for now, they cant force treatment on you. However if it gets life threatening, ie you get blood poisoning, then you can have treatment forced.



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Old 24-01-2010, 04:55 PM   #3
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Old 24-01-2010, 04:58 PM   #4
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I too was in a similar situation to you and although they wanted to section me to get it treated they couldnt find the grounds to as i was mentally capable of making my own decisions and was fully aware as to what I was doing to myself

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Old 24-01-2010, 05:05 PM   #5
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If I did get blood poisoning, (which i doubt i will) why can they force treatment if I am not suffering any mental condition do they first not have to say I am and to diagnose me with a specific condition?

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Old 24-01-2010, 05:06 PM   #6
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Thanks for your reply Grace

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Old 24-01-2010, 05:20 PM   #7
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I'm not totally sure actually Bulldog. Maybe someone else will know?



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Old 24-01-2010, 05:24 PM   #8
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Thanks all the same

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Old 24-01-2010, 06:02 PM   #9
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Yeah they would probably just diagnose you as depressed so they could treat you. I know they do that to people who've attempted suicide impulsively that may not actually fit the criteria for depression.



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Old 24-01-2010, 06:09 PM   #10
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I think its a bit ignorant to think you wont get blood poisning. From what youve said you have a very large risk of doing so and it serious, apart from dying there are lots of implications such as losing your arm for example - but im sure you know all that.

But if you collapsed and ended up in hospital they could force treatment because you may not be in a frame of mind to judge - for example if you are dazed and confused or appear to be so. If you are in a sane frame of mind then there is nothing to stop you from walking out. But since you are slef harming and have done that to yourself they can force treatment.





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Old 24-01-2010, 07:13 PM   #11
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Old 24-01-2010, 07:30 PM   #12
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If they think you are mentally unable to make good decisions for yourself, they can get a court order to force treatment on you. Or if you are putting yourself in danger or serious health problems or death they can.

I know a lot about court orders. I have been IEAed to the hospital more times than I can count, and I also have a court order to receive several services from my mental health center and to take medications.

If you want to talk feel free to PM me. Take care hun.

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Old 24-01-2010, 09:17 PM   #13
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Thanks Jess, and thanks for the offer to talk and to PM

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Old 25-01-2010, 04:59 AM   #14
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in my experience i have never been forced treatment for si... it was only when it became dangerous and overdosing was involved..
it is always better to have these things treated as it shows that you are capable of looking after yourself and that you are well enough to take care of yourself





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Old 25-01-2010, 02:48 PM   #15
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^ i think you missed the info getting took out due to tip sharing, but lets just say it is dangerous.

Maybe bulldog you need to talk about the reasons why you are doing this to yourself and how it helps you, so they you can try and find something less harmful to do, because your still putting yourself in alot of danger.





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Old 25-01-2010, 07:46 PM   #16
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I do apologise I didn't mean to tip share, didn't think before typing. sorry


I have tried talking but the words aren't there, I feel like I'm wasting my GPs time because I never say what I mean or plan to say. He even sees me after normal surgery hours so that it doesn't effect my work, its not fare to take up his time when someone who may be able to speak could be using the time more productively.

I have thought of making another appointment, but I don't want to risk loosing him as a port of call when I have the words. A&E don't want to see me and have referred me to my practise nurse for care so I have already lost that as a place to go when I am in trouble as I can't face going back knowing what they must think of me and I don't want to get to that point with my GP, I don't want anyone to look at my name and think oh crap not her again and for them to be talking about me as a pain in the butt and a time waster.

I have been to counselling and seen a Phyc but I didn't feel any real care from them and couldn't face going back to either after a couple of sessions as I could tell they thought I was not worth there time

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Old 25-01-2010, 11:28 PM   #17
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I'm sorry for being a pain, i really am, I don't want to be a burden on anyone.

Im so sorry

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Old 25-01-2010, 11:49 PM   #18
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Maybe you felt that they thought you were not worth their time, as that is how you see yourself rather than the reality?

Your doctor obviously thinks you're worth it and I'm sure that the counsellor/Psychiatrist would tell you if they thought you shouldn't be there. They didn't say that you didn't need to go, so do you think you could ask to see them again?

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Old 26-01-2010, 01:28 AM   #19
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Thanks for your post, I will deffo think about what you have said, It is so hard to even consider going back thou when I am scared of them "booting me back out the door"

I am scared you know, scared I might actually kill myself through this, but Part of me wont stop, that part hates people trying to heal me and only want to hurt more when someone has tried

Went to the nurse today and she repaired some of what had been done and put some gel on for healing, but all i could think about all day was wanting to take the dressing off and to get the gel off my skin, I was really distressed (inside) that every second that past I was getting further away from the goal that had been set. mates at work commented on me being moody etc but I just tried to laugh it off with them. So what do I do? i go home and take it off etc etc.

Sorry went a bit off your comment but wanted to get that out

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