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Old 12-01-2010, 08:49 PM   #1
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Triggering (SI/ED) - How to discharge yourself from outpatients?

basically self explanitory. how do I go about it espes after being sectioned so many times?
Ive been in services since i was 13, hospitalised at 17 for 7 months and a year later for 3 months (both times secontioned).
now that im in adult services and at uni I'm getting no help whatsoever. I had a cpn which i was told i would be seeing when i was at home and not at uni which turns out im not even seeing anymore. I went from seeing my cpn twice a week with a phone call in between and seeing the dr every 2 weeks till seeing a new dr every 4-6 weeks.
Im so so so annoyed right now, so much so that i self harmed last nite for the first time in a month. I phoned up today to explain that i wasnt happy and all she said was we'll get u an appointment for Feb!! bloody Feb! what am i meant to do till then!I was also meant to be getting reffered to the ED team (a month and a half ago) and when i asked about it she said my notes hadnt been transfered over yet. Im on 14 tablets a day which could easily be cut down to 8.
What am i meant to do, the one time i ask for help and nothing happens. they just dont care, ive never felt so alone even in hospital! So i want to discharge myself from everything and everyone, but how!?



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Old 12-01-2010, 08:53 PM   #2
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I don't think you should discharge yourself. February is only next month. You don't actually have that long to wait. It takes a bit of getting used to when you are transferred from Child and Adolescent Services to Adult as the support is lessened and you are expected to take a whole lot more responsibility for your mental health as you are now an adult.
Try not to make any hasty decisions based on your emotions at this point. You'll only end up feeling even more alone with no support at all. I don't think that's what you really want.
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:39 PM   #3
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they will only discharge you once you are on no medication. also, if you have ever been on section 3, they would have to discharge you off section 117, which you automatically go on after s3, and means that the health workers have a obligation to look after you. they can discharge you off it, i was, but i was the first person to be discharged of it in 10 years in my area!
from what you said, i don't think you are ready to be discharged, and the health workers wouldn't do it either.
the best idea is to use the help you can get, and when you start to feel better you can reduce the amount of support you have.
under s117, you only have to see a professional a minimum of once a year, so doesn't really affect things much.
could you get some more regular support from the uni(i have no idea how uni's work)?

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Old 12-01-2010, 09:45 PM   #4
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Feb is quite a while away giving the circumstances... last time i seen them was at the start if november and giving the fact i used to be seen so regularly im furious to say the least! I need help very soon or im gonna end back in hospital which i think they want to make money of my misery! I havent been this angry in god knows and i dont know whats gotten into me... im just so sick of being messed about espes when i actually ask for help! Ive been with adult services a year now and they suck! I cant believe that they wait for people to be on the verge of a break down before acting... I lost a good friend from hospital because of this which makes me even more angry! Im sorry for the rant but I dont know what else to do, I have absoulutly no one to talk to. I just think i might as well just discharge myself from them cos their so useless and im sure i would be better off without this hassle!
I just need to know how I do it, theres nothing on the internet and I have no one to ask! =(



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Old 12-01-2010, 09:49 PM   #5
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whats a section 117!? over here in ireland we go by forms which i was on a form 10 which is a s3 in england... Ive been on it twice! what would they do if i just dont show up!?
the uni help is alright but they cant do much work with meddication and stuff... jsut the basic stuff only!
I also wan off all my meds to, all i really want is to tell the help professionals to go and f**k themselves and shove there meds where the sun doesnt shine... not all of them tho cos i have came across some good ones!



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Old 12-01-2010, 09:50 PM   #6
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Putting you in hospital costs money it doesn't make it.
To discharge yourself either wait till your next appointment and tell whatever professional you are seeing or simply write them a letter saying that you're discharging yourself.




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Old 12-01-2010, 10:18 PM   #7
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I'm gettin my mum to phone tomorrow, does anyone know whether the section 117 applies to N.ireland!? I really want nothing more to do with any of the NHS mental health services.



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Old 13-01-2010, 09:28 AM   #8
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I don't know sorry.
Just wanted to point out that you may not be thinking rationally at the moment because on the one hand you're saying you're distressed etc about waiting till February for an appointment but then on the other, you're saying you want to be discharged from the NHS MH Services meaning you'll be waiting for an appointment..forever.
I personally think you would be better waiting at least two days till you have calmed before you make any big decisions.
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Old 13-01-2010, 11:23 AM   #9
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soz, i don't know about mha in northern ireland, but the s117 really only affects the health pro's, not us!
if you are on one, then when they come to looking at discharging you, they will discuss with you whether they get rid of the 117. i think, they can discharge you, and you just meet with your gp to cover the 117.

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I don't know sorry.
Just wanted to point out that you may not be thinking rationally at the moment because on the one hand you're saying you're distressed etc about waiting till February for an appointment but then on the other, you're saying you want to be discharged from the NHS MH Services meaning you'll be waiting for an appointment..forever.
I personally think you would be better waiting at least two days till you have calmed before you make any big decisions.
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^This^ It sounds like you need more help than what you are getting rather than less help.

Could you get your gp to contact them and chase them up some more?



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Old 13-01-2010, 06:05 PM   #11
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I no. I'm in two minds... i want help but the NHS are messing me about and I cant stand it anymore! their more hassle than their worth at the min and their causing me so much distress that suicides been on my mind.... Ive never felt so alone and that nobody cares because if the professionals are meant to be helping their really not. I just want rid of them and I'm sure that their is help elsewhere... I need help and im not getting it from them, everytime i go in sayin im not feeling good its like "ok throw more medication down her neck" and thats not what i need or want. surely its unprofessional of them to ignore people the way they are.
I phoned the GP and shes phoning me on friday because im 40 odd mile away from them, Ive also got my mum to phone in and tell them whats going on and where waiting on a phone call back... im truely sick of them righ now. they probably will forget to phone back.



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Old 13-01-2010, 06:12 PM   #12
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I know it's really difficult not to take it personally when the NHS let you down like this. I've been in similar situations with them before and it's really frustrating, infuriating and even hurtful though they won't have meant any of this personally. It's just a service that's under a hell of a lot of demand (especially in northern ireland) and quite a shoddy service at that sometimes but it's your only option [unless you can afford to go private] for support which I think you really need.
I can understand you not wanting to constantly be fobbed off with medication changes. It's lazy of them to do this and expect things to change. Why don't you ask specifically for another treatment? Tell them that medication isn't proving to be the answer. It's not helping you. They should offer you therapy or some other alternative.
They may not call back, try not to rely on them too much, knowing that they can't be relied on - realistically, all the time.




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