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Old 31-12-2009, 02:04 PM   #1
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Lying a part of a pd ????

Is lying part of a pd ??? I cant really go into it too much but I have a friend hes got BPD and they have blaitently lied about a number of things and idk its just confusing me ... they are supposed to be my friend why would they lie to me , now I dont feel like I can trust his word ???
could it be to do with his PD ??





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Old 31-12-2009, 03:31 PM   #2
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Hmm that's a tricky one. I think it depends on what the lies were about.




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Old 31-12-2009, 04:11 PM   #3
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I dont like the fact the bpd = lying.

It doesnt, an ilness doesnt force you to lie, but you need to look at the reasons why hes lying, what hes trying to get out of it, attention? help? you know, its not the bpd thats causing him to lie, its another reason.





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Old 31-12-2009, 04:12 PM   #4
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^ Yes. Lying is pretty much always a defence mechanism, and isn't personality disorder exclusive, as it were.

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Old 31-12-2009, 06:12 PM   #5
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think this might be about me.

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Old 31-12-2009, 09:32 PM   #6
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I don't think a disorder makes you lie, but it could make you more likely to lie if the lying fulfills needs that the disorder makes you need. So you can never blame lying on a disorder, but it might help you understand why the person is doing what they are and help you better decide how to help them and yourself.

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Old 31-12-2009, 09:33 PM   #7
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I don't think it's about you clover. I checked and your profile says female and the person in the op refers to a male. *hugs*

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Old 31-12-2009, 10:00 PM   #8
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I have BPD and this doesn't make me tell blatant lies. I would say that it is a sign of insecurity.

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Old 31-12-2009, 10:03 PM   #9
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And then, not all insecure people tell lies!
But it can come from insecurity, yes.

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Old 31-12-2009, 11:58 PM   #10
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People tell lies for all kinds of reasons, regardless of illness or not. The problem isnt the lie they are telling, its the reason behind it all, why they are telling the lies, most people dont do it for the hell of it or for a laugh, they are doing it because they want a certain reaction.

Basically find out the reason why they are telling the lies.





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Old 01-01-2010, 01:09 AM   #11
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You're right I didn't mean to imply that people who are insecure lie! I just think it is sad if people feel that they have to tell lies.

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Old 01-01-2010, 02:17 AM   #12
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As much as people probably don't want to hear it, I have to say that lying seems to co-exist strongly with those with BPD.

However, as people have mentioned, the reason for lying isn't just because they have a diagnosis of BPD. But some of the symptoms of BPD seem to cause people to lie more often, if that makes sense.

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Old 01-01-2010, 06:06 AM   #13
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think this might be about me.


Clover I think your very wrong !!!! <3

thanks guys I just wanted some kind of idea what you guys think :D





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Old 01-01-2010, 05:00 PM   #14
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inkblack - what makes you say that?





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Old 01-01-2010, 11:45 PM   #15
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well if a symptom of BPD (not all BPD but many cases of it) is that you are more dependent on people and have an intense fear of abandonment, you may lie to try to get people to like you or to keep them from leaving. That doesn't mean you HAVE to lie, it just makes you have more of a temptation to because of the needs your disorder causes.

It's also true that people with depression for instance are more likely to hurt themselves. That doesn't mean all people with depression hurt themselves, but because they have that intense feeling of pain, it makes the temptation for hurting yourself more intense than if you didn't have severe depression. Same for any other illness.

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Old 01-01-2010, 11:53 PM   #16
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Im too honest & am afraid to lie with the person I am dependent on.



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Old 02-01-2010, 12:35 AM   #17
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Lying isnt a prt of bpd though, and it annoyes the hell out of me when people are so judgmental. Every person is different, and just because a few people may lie it give the rest of us with the disorder a bad name.





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Old 02-01-2010, 01:47 AM   #18
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No it doesn't mean you're a horrible person if you have BPD. And it doesn't mean you will lie with BPD. All it means is that if a person with BPD lies, it helps you understand some of the reasons they are lying. It should help people better understand the person, rather than judging them. By no means should you assume a person with BPD will lie, just like you should never assume that a person with psychosis is dangerous to others.

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