i ended up in hospital, i ad a 6 hour panick attack and i was hypoventalating and hitting stuff and crying for 2 hours and i didnt stop pacing up and down for over 9 nine hours i was given a sedative but that didnt even touch the side so they ghave me more but that didnt even work either, the doctor at a&e said that he was never seen anyone pace for so long and my ecg came back abnormal and so did my pulse so they wouldnt let me leave and said if i didnt go into psych hospital they would sectioin me which i think is stupid it was only a panick attack. so i went in and got out today because i lied and said that i wasnt feeling suicidal because i just wanted to get out, infact they never really asked me if i was feeling suicidal because that wasnt the reason i went in but im still feeling so anxious and ive done some pacing today but it isnt helping! i feel like my "attack" could come on again at any minute and its horrible! has anyone else had this? i feel like im going mad its horrible, everyone was really nice about it even the ambulance people although i felt like i was wasting there time! i just felt so mad! all the tension and energy built up and exploded in that way and it was horrible!
I've had similar. Not for that long and I never had any medical tests, but it used to happen frequently with me (like every night for years). Sometimes I could calm myself down once I'd tired out, which could take a while, sometimes my parents would give me sedatives, or they'd take me to A&E to see the psychiatrist and they'd give me sedatives.
I got used to it because it happened so often for several years, but after I spent time in a treatment programme it seemed to go away. Care team called it agitation but I'm not generally that agitated anymore. I still pace, sometimes for hours, but not usually because I'm distressed.
Not sure what to suggest though I'm afraid, but perhaps trying to find out what makes you agitated and any anxiety management.
i can feel another "attack" coming on! i have all this energy that needs to burst out but my dad is away for the weekend i dont want my mum to have to deal with it on her own or to end up back in hospital again i only got out yesterday help!
i had another attack again today but it didnt last as long, only about 30 mins but my brother got scared and angry at me because i wasnt listening to him about breathing (because i couldnt hear him) and he didnt see my attack on wednesday so he slapped me! i feel like such a faluire and an idiot even my brother hates me for something i just couldnt control! im a horrible person!
Maybe he thought the shock of the slap would snap you out of hyperventilation. I used to have bad anger episodes and my mum would slap me. I'm sure he doesn't hate you hun, he was just scared xxx
Yeah, slapping can help with panic attacks. My Dad punched me during a panic attack once and it stopped, although I did lose consciousness for a bit.
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When your panic attacks are caused by PTSD related violence, though, it wouldn't help any.
that's true but as I said he was probably scared and didn't know what to do. I'm not defending violence but fear makes us do things we may not do if we are thinking rationally. x
my attack wasnt caused by PTSD, it was just a random reaction to sitting in the car and i can understand why he did it, i would have been scared if i was him watching someone i love freak out and hit themselves and cry and not breathing and banging my feet, i just would never have hit him and it hurts me that he feels he can, it worrys me that he feels if he is upset he can lash out! i dont want my behaviour to effect him, i want him to have as stable loving life as possible even with a sister who is "mentally unwell" and unable to control her actions sometimes!
my parents have decided im not allowed out by myself or with friends untill these "attacks" stop and i dont know if they ever will!
last time i had panick attacks which were much weaker and easier to control then these it took months for me to be able to control them and stop them and i even had to go to hospital for a few months! i dont want to be virtually locked up and fighting with my family to get out the house! i feel trapped!
I think you need to talk to your Dr about them alongside your parents. I know that when i had panic attacks when I was at school I wasn't really allowed out and about because it can look really scary to onlookers. However, if you aren't sure what is going on, or what is causing them and being trapped at home is likely to make them worse then its not going to help you.
I also wonder if you would be able to talk to your brother about what happened because it might clear the air between the pair of you and that seems to be important
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Could you talk to your brother and just say something along the lines of 'look, I know it was hard for you the other day but slapping me makes it worse' because maybe the tension here and also possibly the anxiety his reaction has evoked (like, that he might get angrier and do something like that or worse again when you're having a panic attack could exasperate the panic). I don't think he meant to be horrible, I think it was probably a very complex situation for both of you, but if you haven't cleared the air as Random swirls put it well, it might be exasperating how difficult things are, and he does need to know what does and doesn't help in a panic attack.
I would also strongly, strongly, strongly say to anyone endorsing slapping people as a way of helping a panic attack - it's not. Panic attacks are driven by panic, fear, fight or flight. How the hell is being violent towards someone going to do anything other than make them panic more?
When my panic attacks were bad, people tried pouring water over me, slapping me, shouting, etc, I completely understand, but I also want people to know if someone is so frightened they are having a panic attack they need gentleness, they're not going to snap out of it.
I was also hospitalised for a long panic attack once hun it sounds really scary and you must be exhausted but it sounds like it's still ongoing, the adrenaline and such.
thanks for the reply
i had two more this morning, they are getting shorter only about 30 mins each but they are getting more frequent! i would talk to my brother but we are kind of pretending it didnt happen (like we do alot in my family) so i dont really want to drag it up!
im terffied of having another really long one and being put back in hospital again! my parents get really angry when i have them or at least thats how im perceiving it and when i ask them "are you angry at me" when its all over they say "you want us to be dont you!" i dont im just asking because im scared they are! im also worried about going to see my psych on tuesday as i have to get the bus and i dont want them to have stop the bus for me while im panicking also i scare people with the whole shakey and hitting my head and throat! i dont want to scare people! and my parents are going to an auction tomorrow which i have to go with them but i dont want to have a panick attack in the middle of it because then they wont be able to bid! mainly im just really scared this will ruin christmas and i will either end up inside or have a panick attack on christmas day and ruin it for everyone! why have they come back?
when i had my long one on wednesday they thought i had taken recreational drugs and when i said i hadnt there was talk of being drugged while i had been out with my friend on that day! but i know he would never do that! so why would they suddenly have come back? and worse then ever? im so confussed and my head is constantly spinning i dont know what im think my thoughts are going so fast and i just wish i was dead right now! i know thats a really stupid thing to think because nothing big has happened all thats happening is stupid little panick attacks but im finding it so hard to cope and being kept away from my friends and trapped with my family isnt helping! i have a plan to do something to end my life but i know i will just get caught by the police before i even make it to town to buy what i need and i dont want to hurt my family! they are trying so hard to help me and i dont want to blow it back in there faces! i feel so bad for being such a horrible screwed up daughter! and they say its ok that i am unwell and i cant help it but maybe i can! because whenever i have a panick attack people talk to me and say "you can beat this just breath" like its in my control and then get angry when i dont respond but i cant hear them i mean i can but its very distant im like trapped in my own not breathing kind of world and i know it is probably in my control but i just feel so helpless at the moment and i hate it!
sorry another rant! im just so muddled at the moment
With breathing to control panic attacks, it's unreasonable to expect breathing to control it in the midst of an attack. Breathing works best if you practise it when you aren't panicking so you get used to breathing from your stomach and being in control. I also find I have much more success practising the breathing when I feel an attack coming on, less so when it's progressed further.
Something else I find useful is forward planning. The situations you're worried about over the next couple of days are the same kinds of things I find difficult, feeling trapped and with a crowd of people you don't know. I find it useful to come up with some kind of "evacuation plan", so for example at the auction I'd try to be at the end of a row, near an exit. I'd find out where the nearest door to outside (for fresh air) and bathroom is (for washing my face in cold water or just being alone without having to worry about people watching). It may be that just knowing what you would do if you did panic makes you less anxious.
thank you i will practise the breathing and also find straegies and ways of getting out of situations!
i just had another attack in my own home all i was doing was shopping for a bag for my mum on the internet and i suddenly felt all this tension build up inside me and i felt like crying and then i snap and start freaking out and my mum starts laughing going "what did i do to deserve this?" so i decide i dont want to be in the house anymore i cant stand being in a place where people hate me! but my brother holds me back and my mum locks all the doors so i go and hide in the toilet and then my mum shouts at me to just sit down next to her and my brother says "are you just doing this for attention? im getting really fed up of this" but then i calm down abit (so i can breath) and start hitting him saying "how can you say that, i cant control it and now you hate me! let me go" but he is leaning on me so i can breath and i feel trapped and then i start crying and my brother forces me onto the sofa and sits on me so i cant move and im saying "get off i cant breath...you hate me! i know you do!" and im not allowed to move and then i calm down and stop crying and eventually he gets off me and i storm upstairs to my room and now i cant talk to them because i know they hate me! i hate me! everyone hates me! how can i live if everyone hates me and wants me dead!
maybe i do, do it for attention? what if i do and im a horrible person! i dont think i do but what if i do?
Even if you were doing it for attention (and I don't believe you are) it would not make you a horrible person. I've never seen (or read rather) you in this way before, you sound very frightened and out of control, and I don't think it's your fault. I also really relate, a few years ago I was having long panic attacks that had me in hospital with similar reactions.
You often seem to be scared of what other people think of you, and talk about people hating you. At the moment things sound utterly unbearable and these longstanding beliefs must make things even worse. I know you can't just not believe them (I have the same ones and can't either), could you sit down with your family or write them a letter, you've said it's hard to talk to them, that they dont like to talk, which must make things so much harder. Could your psych or anyone speak to them for you? Just to sort of give a few pointers that you can't help this and how to help you and help themselves
I don't think they hate you deep down, when I Was out of control my parents used to say they hated me and I was ruining their lives too (I remember you saying they've said this to you in the past?), so to some extent I know how painful and crushing it is to hear. I think right now your family are incredibly stressed and they're taking it out on you, it doesn't mean they hate you though.
Being restrained is terrifying, particularly in these circumstances when you're already afraid. Could there be a quiet spot with say a bean bag or a pillow you could agree to go to to calm down rather than being restrained? Have you ever done an exercise where you go to a safe place in your head to calm down?
Right now home sounds like a very scary place, it sounds a little how Aquarius was (hope it's ok to make that comparison) at times. Is there anywhere you could stay at the moment? Is supported accommodation stll on the cards?
I also got very scared of people hating me and asked them 'are you mad at me/ do you hate me/ sorry' all the time, which got people so angry too, saying that what I said was meaningless and that they would hate me if I didn't shut up saying that, and I think this is ismilar with you, it sort of reinforces the fear.
I also hate it when I have panic attacks and people say 'you can do this, you can have control'... if only it was that easy!
Have you been thinking about anything in paticular lately? Like if I think about certain things in my past it can bring on panic attacks, or do these correspond with any bad dates? Has anything happened?
thank you, you are very kind am im sure i do not deserve it!
it is a little like aquarius at home at the moment, being scared of being jumped on at any moment and just the general mood of everyone because im so on edge! i also havent ever been this out of control for such a long period of time, i used to get out of control but only for a few hours this is lasting days even my old panick attacks were as scary as this. the horrible thing is i was having such a good week last week and everything has just plumbeted! but supported accomidation isnt really an option at the moment, because i cant ask my care coordinator because she thinks my problems can all be solved by talking to my mother and that they have every right to keep me locked up or restrained in the house (abit like dan and the police thought) because its for my own good!
i just now spoke to my mum and brother about how to treat me if i have another attack and they said they will try but my brother just kind of walked off so i dont think he was really listening! but i will just have to see!
i am very scared of what people think of me and i am trying to work on that with my psychologist but its very deeply routed and those times my parents said i was ruining there lives have really effected me! im sorry your parents said that to you to *hugs*
i havent tried the safe place in my head thing, i will try it but i dont think id be very good at it im rubbish at visualing things in my head but thank you!
i have been thinking alot about my birthday coming up in two months i really cant turn 20, i wasnt meant to even be born! (i know its a long way away but i am always worrying about something) and nothing badd has happened apart from a close of mine coming onto me and making me feel abit uncomfortable but thats all nothing big has happened so it makes me feel pathetic behaving like this!
i only had a 10 minute panick attack today! so its getting better, i just worry i will have one later when my friends around i dont want her to see me mental! i mean she knows i am mental she has visited me in hospital and stuff but shes never actually seen it! its weird its like i can feel a big one waiting to happen and im just in suspense as to when! its like a constant pressure over my head, trying to keep my cool out in public!
Sorry i keep posting. its just i feel like utter crap today! i cant talk i feel so bad, i was in the car this morning just hopng someone would drive into us, i want to curl up in a tiny ball and die! i had another really long attack last night and woke up my entire family because i was being so loud although i was trying to be quite and my brother got up and i felt so bad because he had to get up for school early this morning and my mum came to comfort me but was half asleep so i feel like a horrible horrible person, depriving them of sleep! i was just lying there thinking of the camera in my room and i started to get scared and then i panicked and now i cant sleep in my room so i have to sleep on the sofa, but i dont know where there are other cameras so im finding it hard to sleep at all!
i have a pyschology appointment today but i caant talk, so it will probably be pointless there is no point in me going, the only reason to go is so i can run away! i just feel so terrible i havent felt ths bad in ages i want to tear myself to peices its what i deserve! i cant do this anymore! and i know i sound selfish only thinking of myself and i should think of my family but im hurting them by having all these panick attacks my parents are really stressed with work and my brother is hating school and im just making it worse makng them worry about me! i want these attacks to stop! but even if they did stop would i feel any better?
i ran out of antidepressants the day before yesterday so didnt take one last night would it have this effect so quickly?
im sorry this has been so long and rantish and im being selfish by keeping on posting but i cant talk to anyone because i just cant get the words out!
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so its getting better, i just worry i will have one later when my friends around i dont want her to see me mental! i mean she knows i am mental she has visited me in hospital and stuff but shes never actually seen it! its weird its like i can feel a big one waiting to happen and im just in suspense as to when! its like a constant pressure over my head, trying to keep my cool out in public!