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Old 23-06-2009, 04:49 PM   #1
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Triggering (Suicide) - They say I dont warrent hospital admission - so what does???!

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Just wondering really. I have spoke to crisis team twice in the past week, went to a and e and got given some diazepam and sent home, od'd and ended up in a and e, seen early intervention, all in the past week.


I have expressed i have a plan still, and how unsafe i feel. I say that i have equipment to kill myself with. i Say that i am going to do something soon. I am unsafe.

Yet I dont merit to be admitted to hospital.
So what does? Do i actually need to attempt to kill myself before someone listens. I KNOW im going to do something and i cant seem to stop myself. Im telling people in the hope they will stop me and help me live.


I am expressing thoughts that i need to kill The White Man. I am scared I will act out on these thoughts.
I have been in hospital before, both adult and child.

I think the NHS is probabaly only trying to save money. I wish i could go private.

What should i do if i am unable to keep myself safe?x


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Old 23-06-2009, 05:57 PM   #2
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Hmmm, I understand how horrible this must be for you.
If you don't feel safe could you just stay with someone like a family member/friend until you do if you can't get addmitted to hospital? Please try not to hurt yourself, sweetie. I'm here if you need me. xo.



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Old 23-06-2009, 06:07 PM   #3
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Thanks. Its just think Hospital would be the best place for me at the moment as Im the worst.

i think i will have too make use of the crisis team more., as they are supposed to keep people out of hospital.

I know its a horrible place, and its scary, but i just thought it would be the best thing for me at the minute. xx





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Old 23-06-2009, 06:34 PM   #4
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If you've been in hospital numerous times before, they may find that you're becoming too dependant on it (and begin to expect it during difficult times) and that by seeing yourself through these difficult times by relying on the Crisis Team/A&E you will then begin to teach yourself how to get through these times without having to be hospitalised each time.

Right now you may not see that side of things, and that the only way to keep yourself safe is to be in hospital - but from my point of view, anything is possible inside AND out of hospital, so if you were still deadset on going through with a suicide plan while in hospital you will find anyway possible to go about it regardless. So they may not feel hospital will help you. I've often seen people in your position who have been begging to be admitted but haven't for the exact reasons i've stated - professionals are reluctant to let people become dependant on hospital because it can actually be more detrimental to your recovery.

Is there a friend/family member who is able to keep an eye on you through this difficult time? Or possibly express how you're feeling to the Crisis Team and ask for regular phonecalls/home visits - or hand over any medication/equipment you have to them which will make you feel safer atleast in the short term.

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Old 23-06-2009, 06:56 PM   #5
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Sorry to hear you're going through a tough time. It sounds like you're really going to have to work hard with the crisis team, but as Acrasia said, this is a good opportunity to learn how to cope in the community without resorting to hospital. Hospital is not always an option, like now it seems, and its really quite valuable knowing how to manage without an admission.

As always, if you are about to do something then make sure you ring your crisis team to talk it through and get some support, or get back to A&E.



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Old 23-06-2009, 07:24 PM   #6
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Everyone makes sense really. I guess i need to learn how to deal with things outside. Im just looking for a short term solution really.


Not, really, no, there is no-one after tomorrow. I can stay here tonight but tomorrow i am going to claim homeless and go into a hostel or somewhere, where no-one will be around to stop me, which worries me more that i will do stuff.

I dont really have any friends close by, and I dont speak to my family much.

I will defo keep the crisis number close by though, and i hope they will help me. To be honest i am torn bewteen wanting help and wanting to kill myself but the urge is so strong.

I have been smoking more and drinking more (i was a non smoker and a rare drinker) just to get by.

thanks for everyones input xx





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Old 23-06-2009, 07:43 PM   #7
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I dont know if youd be put in Ayton or Cooks but if it were the Cooks your *definately* better tryin to ge thtough it at home. Youve been to Ayton and thats pretty bad but Cooks is honestly the worst hospital, by far, that ive been in and ive been to 5 (lol). And also last time i was in ayton (Feb) it was full of old people pissing and shittin everywhere it was awful. One of the reasons they ,might not want to admit you right now is that the other patients in there could make you even worse. That happened to me when i was 14. They were gonna put me in the newberry, arranged everything and then changed their mind as the patients in there at the time couuld have made me even worse than i was.

With you being pretty much homeless you could ask to be put in Sunningdale till you get yourself sorted. I was in there for like 4 hours before been transferred and it seemed okay. Rooms were nice-ish and staff seemed okay too. Just an option a bit idfferent to hospital but where you can access help. xx Stay safe honey xx

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Old 23-06-2009, 07:48 PM   #8
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Thanks, yeh ive been in ayton and i thought it was terrible at the time but looking back it wasnt so bad, just i was feeling so bad.

I dont think it will be stockton hospital because im under Vivek who's middlesbrough.

Theres no beds in sunningdale. Crisis checked the other day, but that is somewhere I would think would be helpful.

I think crisis said its quite stressful in st lukes at the min

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Old 23-06-2009, 07:54 PM   #9
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Tell them youll wait for a bed in sunningdale i think the trunovers pretty fast and ask them to put your name down for the next bed or something. And yeh if they say its stressful in st lukes better off staying out of there it was stressfull situation both times ive been in and it was awful.

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Old 23-06-2009, 08:05 PM   #10
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Ive just rang sunningdale and they said "ring crisis"

so i rang crisis and they said " early intervention are dealing with your case now, so talk to them"

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Old 23-06-2009, 08:10 PM   #11
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ehh you from middlesbrough?
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Old 23-06-2009, 09:01 PM   #12
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Defo not him! wouldnt exactly call him lovely lol!

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Old 23-06-2009, 09:09 PM   #13
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Yes very, wears big glasses, probs about 40s, 50s? x





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Old 24-06-2009, 01:28 PM   #14
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Ah okay.


Im homeless and went to the hostel today. they were going to give me a bed until they read my risk assessment. they say they cant support me enough to be there and obviously dont want to take the risk.

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Old 24-06-2009, 01:33 PM   #15
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aw hun, this is sucking.

I hate the public sector, there utterly useless!

I hope you find somewhere, anywhere.

I have been told in the past that if I am feeling really unsafe go to the police, they are obliged to protect you, even if it is from yourself.

I wish there was something I could do to help. take it easy, I hope you get something sorted out and you know how to contact me should you need to.

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Old 24-06-2009, 01:41 PM   #16
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Thanks,

I had not thought of the police. I hate police but i seam to have used all other options. x





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Old 24-06-2009, 02:11 PM   #17
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Crisis team have got me a bed in sunningdale x





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Old 24-06-2009, 02:12 PM   #18
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Old 24-06-2009, 02:19 PM   #19
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Best of luck, I hope your stay at hospital helps



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Old 24-06-2009, 02:21 PM   #20
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Thanks its not quite a hospital, a care home. But im only there until monday x





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