General locations that are well know are left such as arms and legs.
unusal locations should be removed so if you see any of these post report it so we can take it out.
In first aid exact location numbers are not allowed either such as i i cut 2cm from my elbow.
Also it is not allowed to say things such as "I cut in such an area as there are veins there"
basically anything that can give ideas to other members are removed. if in doubt post report it an the mods will have a look and see what they think.
I was always of the opinion that skin is skin. But the tipsharing line gets crossed when you are like "I cut X because there are lots of veins/arteries/nerves there."
i think sometimes the area needs to be mentioned to get advice/know they aren't alone in this.
for example if someone is reffering to SH in private parts as a result of sexual abuse or whatever.
but if not, i've seen alot of threads that shouldn't be allowed?
^^ Exactly. It's a bit of a silly rule for the SI board really as more often than not self harmers need to know they aren't alone when it comes to harming on certain parts of there body - self harmers usually already feel like "freaks" - so just some comfort from others knowing they aren't alone is atleast going to help them in some way.
Put it this way - i think that rule has been broken on every other post for months! I don't think people find a problem with it. Anything could be tipsharing anyway. If someone is going to trigger themselves or want tips they'll only google anyway, regardless of what is on RYL.
if a post is breaking the rules,please report it,we cant do it without your help.x
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I've always wondered about this as well. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells whenever I post in case I somehow "tipshare."
Besides, it's a totally superfluous rule. Even the non-self-harmers here know how to self-harm, there are very few tips we could actually share. And as Acrasia said, we feel like freaks as it is and sometimes we need to know we're not alone if we do something that we don't usually do, and having to say "I cut... somewhere with... something. Has anyone else ever done this?" isn't going to make it easy.
I've had posts edited in the past for supposed "tipsharing." Obviously I'm not going to say what I originally wrote, but I was under the impression it would be pretty common knowledge here.
And finally... even if we do happen across a *ahem* "tip", it doesn't automatically mean we'll try it. And if it is something that we may want to try, chances are it has crossed our minds in the past anyway.
In fact, I think advising people on covering scars during the summer is more tipsharing than anything. What would you call "do this to make sure you can hide from your friends and family and people who care about you more effectively" but tipsharing?
If anything, we should be telling each other that old scars are nothing to be ashamed of; that they're proof we've gone through the worst and lived to tell the tale. I can walk around town wearing short sleeves without feeling self-conscious, and I'd rather be able to do that than know how to lie better.
"i cut on my xxxx so no one sees"
and
"wear long sleeves and sweatbands so no one can see your cuts"
that might just be me though!
this raises an interesting point though, now im a bit confused.
"They say time heals all wounds. I don't agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessons, but it is never gone." - Rose Kennedy
i think the no tip sharing thing is a great idea ive just always wondered ... like if someones going to self harm isnt it better to tell them how to do it as safe as possible and i know self harm isnt safe but there are ways you can make it safer (that doesnt make much sense) and ive wondered would that be classed as tip sharing or just advice
I've seen people post things about cutting in areas that NEVER would've crossed my mind, but they're not edited out
if you're uncertain, PR it, it may jus tbe a case of the mods havnt seen it to edit it.
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Originally Posted by Acrasia Anything could be tipsharing anyway. If someone is going to trigger themselves or want tips they'll only google anyway, regardless of what is on RYL.
This.
How accessable triggering material is outside of RYL is not the point. The point is RYL is supposed to remain safe. This is an argument people used againts the numbers rule; that members would sjut go 'elsehwere' to be competitive. But, if the rule of 'well, you can find it elsewhere on the net ifyou wanted to' were to be apllied to ryl, then it could be argued that methods of suicide, thinspiration and other very inapropriate images shoudltn be banned becuase members can go find them elsewhere if they want to.
"I would be almighty in my own world of art, even if I had to paint my pictures with my wet tongue on the dusty floor of my cell." -Picasso
"No, painting is not done to decorate apartments. It is an instrument of war." - Picasso
'I have scars becuase I have a past; but they, like my past, do not define my future'
I see tipsharing as info on new places etc etc. But I really hate the 'how to cover in summer' stuff, as I know when I was really bad I would have used this as an excuse etc etc. To me that is almost worse.
I wear short sleeves now and openly admit to anyone who asks cause I see it as a part of me and I shouldn't be ashamed anymore. Also hopefully I can help somone understand a bit more about SH
How accessable triggering material is outside of RYL is not the point. The point is RYL is supposed to remain safe. This is an argument people used againts the numbers rule; that members would sjut go 'elsehwere' to be competitive. But, if the rule of 'well, you can find it elsewhere on the net ifyou wanted to' were to be apllied to ryl, then it could be argued that methods of suicide, thinspiration and other very inapropriate images shoudltn be banned becuase members can go find them elsewhere if they want to.
The point of the matter is that people are becoming increasingly pissed off at trying to be cotton wooled, because i think you'll find a massive percentage of people on RYL don't want all these rules and regulations - it's getting too much. And if the OP of this thread hadn't brought this to your attention none of you would have noticed because no one is post reporting these posts simply because they SHOULD be allowed.
You should beable to say "I've cut in X area, i feel like a freak" and have people say they cut there too, that it's ok, that although it isn't safe, that they aren't a freak, that they aren't alone. They should beable to recieve that comfort and support on RYL but half the damn rules in this place are so vague people are walking on eggshells not knowing what they can and can't say.
And i think finding triggering material outside of RYL has everything to do with this conversation. It's a well known fact people will self trigger themselves on this website - so even if these threads weren't allowed they'd go on the picture board with the "scars visable" label and go and trigger themselves, there will always be something triggering to someone on this website and the point of the matter is that if someone is so hell bent on triggering themselves they'll do it with or without RYL. At the end of the day everyone on this website has to live in the real world - it's life, i mean for god sake you have a thread in the self harm forum saying they're triggered by tesco's (which i haven't read and by no means am i taking the piss out of that thread) - this is the sort of behaviour we're going to get if we keep cotton wooling everyone and putting bubble wrap on everything "just incase someone is triggered".
Someone is always triggered by something. It's about using common sense and avoiding those triggers, i'm triggered by the ED board - i don't go on there, i'm triggered by the word rape - i don't go on the sexual abuse forum. If i wanted to trigger myself, i'd go on those boards, or better still i'd go on google and google some hardcore sh*t that will f*ck my head up!
There's too many damn rules and regulations on this website and everyone - especially from the ruin days - are constantly bringing this point up.
Just leave it as it is. If they haven't been post reported already then obviously members aren't finding these threads triggering. The SI board should be for people to talk about self harm in all manners of the word - they shouldn't feel like they have to put X after everyword because of rules.
Certain rules on this website are necessary and i respect them completely - a site would go to pot without some sort of regulation - but the more you try to enforce these vague rules, the more members are going to retreat into there shells and go elsewhere and do more damage to themselves.
Sorry if it seems like i'm having a go at you - i'm not, it's just a generalised rant, but it needed to be said.
I hope this doesn't come across as me trying to tell anyone to leave - that's not the intention, merely trying to argue a point to death. ;)
Yes, there is triggering and tipsharing material all over the net... so can't those people who find RYL too cotton woolly go and look for it, instead of eliminating a site which tries to be different in that?
I don't have much to add at this point, but as for this -
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And finally... even if we do happen across a *ahem* "tip", it doesn't automatically mean we'll try it. And if it is something that we may want to try, chances are it has crossed our minds in the past anyway.
It IS possible to come across "tips" you haven't thought of. Since being a part of RYL I've learned a few methods I ended up using - and yet I'd never thought of them before. Chances aren't always true. Considering how strict RYL rules are compared to other sites, it seems, I shudder to think what it might be if they were as lax as some people want them to be.
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But the reason people stay on RYL is because there mindset isn't always "I need to trigger myself" - it's often "I want to try and stay safe and get support/understanding" - which is why they joined here in the first place.
But if they do want to trigger themselves they will find every way possible to do so - RYL or not.
I've also learnt methods on here and attempted them but i don't necessarily think that's a bad thing because if i hadn't read it i would have found some other - possibly more serious way - of harming myself.
I'm not dissing RYL on the whole per say - just that i feel there's far too many rules, and half the rules are so vague no one particularly knows which way to go so they end up feeling like they're walking on eggshells.
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