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Old 16-11-2008, 04:14 AM   #1761
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Hmm I dunno Jacie, how would you even go about it without having them slam the door in your face, b/c in my experience the church doesn't usually like to admit that these are issues that affect the "churched" population and even less to admit that it affects the "churched" population sitting in their own pews every week. But "hypothetically" I'd definately be willing to help you try lol just let me know what's going on



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Old 16-11-2008, 04:15 AM   #1762
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Tom: I do, just because I don't want the questions, the pitying looks, the "what did I do wrong's", the judgment or the constant scrutiny to see if I'm still doing it. Because I know that's what it'll come down to, and she'll blame herself no matter what I tell her. I think she's been through journals I used to keep in the past so I think she knows and just doesn't want to confront me b/c she doesn't think I know that she does.
i hope no one EVER reads my journal




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Old 16-11-2008, 04:38 AM   #1763
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Tom: I wish she didn't but she had a habit of just coming in and going through my room when I wasn't home and I noticed that some of them had pages torn out(including ones that I wrote about my father and my sexual harassment (and certainty I was going to be raped at one point) from an old family friend on a fishing trip, written in way more detail then anyone needed to know) so I promptly quit keeping them, if I can't keep them private then I won't keep them at all, if I wanted you to know this stuff I would have told you myself....which sucks b/c I'm a writer, always have been so I've now got a binder of writing I keep with me and hopefully no one ever gets ahold of it it's got some pretty damning evidence of my SI and whatnot lol I just hate that a lot of my old stuff was lost when I got rid of the journals.....but it had to be done, took a long time before I could even write again, but I'm slowly coming back, I'm just a little too paranoid about people being anywhere near that binder lol



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Old 16-11-2008, 04:46 AM   #1764
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Tears of Blood: i'm so sorry! I'm a writer as well, and I don't know what I would do if my private writing was ever violated or if it was damaged or taken away. I sympathize greatly. Is there a place for you to maybe lock your writing up so your parents cant take it? Or maybe if you typed it onto a flash drive that you could password protect or something? i'm not sure of your rescources so those are just ideas...



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Old 16-11-2008, 05:17 AM   #1765
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crashgirl: you location made me giggle as I never see people from these parts on RYL =]

Tears - I can't imagine how violated you feel having your journals read. I would literally be devistated if anyone read mine without my concent and I'm truly blessed that my parents respect my privacy. Maybe you could learn a different writing system if Crash's flash drive idea doesn't work? I know you can find many differnt alphabets online, or you could make up you own.

thinking good thoughts for everyone =] (I'm not quite comfortable praying yet)

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Old 16-11-2008, 05:30 AM   #1766
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@crash i have tons of stuff on my usb that links me to si i also LOVE your sig that is my favorite verse of all time (also i read your blog)

the problem is for a while my journal was my only way to vent. well i sware alot because that was my only way to comprehend my pain outside of si. other than that is definitve proff i am a sier which dosent need to fall into the wrong hands




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Old 16-11-2008, 05:40 AM   #1767
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@world: Me either o_O People here are hard to find on RYL. Hm, I have a lot everywhere that would link me D: Though I have nothing anywhere right now (except here) that tells of my relapse. I have told two friends IRL, and both of them are kind of angry because of it.... I can't imagine if I had blogged it or written it and someone else knew ><

@ph1sh: I actually got the verse from your title thing :yoda: thanks. Oh, i also switched to my livejournal for my blog... It's friends only, I thought it would be a better idea. plus i update it more.

True that my journal holds things I dont want read, even without the SI. i can't imagien what i would doif it was read!



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Old 16-11-2008, 06:57 AM   #1768
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Hey people,

I'm not doing great. My world was rocked earlier this week, and I'm having so many meetings to try and gain safety again. I hate how it seems that once you hit rock bottom, the bottom gives out and you fall even lower. I hate it.

I just want to feel comfortable and secure once again.



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Old 16-11-2008, 08:16 AM   #1769
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@rustedchains:

Psalm 18:2

The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge. He is my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.


When the bottom falls away from you, don't reach down searching for it--reach up, and let God be your rock when you don't have anything else solid. He will not let you down. *hugs*



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Old 16-11-2008, 03:52 PM   #1770
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Unfortunately, the second we feel comfortable and at home on this earth, God tends to shake things up--a reminder that we don't belong here, but with him. CS Lewis once said that God always gives us struggles in this life, that he makes sure we are always facing things we cant quite figure out. And that his reason is so we will remember, this world is not our home. If you have a great day, enjoy time with friends, eat a good meal...those things are good. But God will always remind us that this world is just an inn. We are just passing through. It's not a destination, it's a motel.He doesn't let our lives get so solid that we can put our trust in our family, health, talent, friends, church...not completely. He wants us to enjoy those things, but put our trust completely in Him.m

don't know if that helps. in any case, i'll be praying for you <3 and i hope things settle down soon.

Though the mountains leave their place and the hills be shaken, My love shall never leave you nor my covenant of peace be shaken, says the LORD, who has mercy on you. Isaiah 54:5

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Old 16-11-2008, 07:11 PM   #1771
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i know that very well jacie

*big hugs to you crash*

im praying for you all
GRACE AND PEACE




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Old 16-11-2008, 08:49 PM   #1772
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this idea in my head is spiraling out of my control, so I sure hope God's got it all :P

Here's what it's looking like.

Adamah is a hebrew word that means earth, or dirt. It's where Adam's name came from, because he was created out of the dust of the earth. It's a reminder to all those I want to work with that we are all equal in God's eyes--all of us come from the same dirt, and from dirt at that. So there's no reason to look down on others, to be all...silly and pretentious and judgemental. Instead we're called to love each other and help each other. So...at first, I was thinking that we need to educate churches about SI and ED's, and how to deal with them. But other groups have been brought to my attention too, groups that feel like the church doesn't accept them or have room for them...I know a missionary to people with disabilities, and one to the gothic culture, and they both want in on it. I know a few people who are nonpracticing homosexuals that are interested. People still struggling to heal from childhood trauma that feel like they're looked down on. There are all these people out there that the church just won't acknowledge, and these people feel like they can't speak about their problems. And there are ministries out there to all these groups, and we could work with them to get information to churches. And I really think it might work. Obviously some people are just not going to listen, but...for those who do, it would make everything worth it.

Yeah, I know I'm crazy :) But I think this could happen.

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Old 16-11-2008, 09:10 PM   #1773
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it can and it will jacie




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Old 16-11-2008, 09:12 PM   #1774
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Unfortunately, the second we feel comfortable and at home on this earth, God tends to shake things up--a reminder that we don't belong here, but with him. CS Lewis once said that God always gives us struggles in this life, that he makes sure we are always facing things we cant quite figure out. And that his reason is so we will remember, this world is not our home. If you have a great day, enjoy time with friends, eat a good meal...those things are good. But God will always remind us that this world is just an inn. We are just passing through. It's not a destination, it's a motel.He doesn't let our lives get so solid that we can put our trust in our family, health, talent, friends, church...not completely. He wants us to enjoy those things, but put our trust completely in Him.m

don't know if that helps. in any case, i'll be praying for you <3 and i hope things settle down soon.

Though the mountains leave their place and the hills be shaken, My love shall never leave you nor my covenant of peace be shaken, says the LORD, who has mercy on you. Isaiah 54:5
AMEN!
Wow. Just wow.
I've been comfortable, and dare I say it, almost happy for a few days... then BAM my Nana, who I'm really close to, is in the hospital again and it's not looking good.

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this idea in my head is spiraling out of my control, so I sure hope God's got it all :P

Here's what it's looking like.

Adamah is a hebrew word that means earth, or dirt. It's where Adam's name came from, because he was created out of the dust of the earth. It's a reminder to all those I want to work with that we are all equal in God's eyes--all of us come from the same dirt, and from dirt at that. So there's no reason to look down on others, to be all...silly and pretentious and judgemental. Instead we're called to love each other and help each other. So...at first, I was thinking that we need to educate churches about SI and ED's, and how to deal with them. But other groups have been brought to my attention too, groups that feel like the church doesn't accept them or have room for them...I know a missionary to people with disabilities, and one to the gothic culture, and they both want in on it. I know a few people who are nonpracticing homosexuals that are interested. People still struggling to heal from childhood trauma that feel like they're looked down on. There are all these people out there that the church just won't acknowledge, and these people feel like they can't speak about their problems. And there are ministries out there to all these groups, and we could work with them to get information to churches. And I really think it might work. Obviously some people are just not going to listen, but...for those who do, it would make everything worth it.

Yeah, I know I'm crazy :) But I think this could happen.
It desperately needs to happen... While church leaders sit around and debate whether Christians can struggle with those sorts of issues, record numbers of us are. it's time for action.
Satan has us convinced that Christians can not struggle with SI, or EDs, or homosexuality, and therefore we don't take these sins/struggles before our Christian brothers and sisters and ask for help... it's a mess.



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Old 16-11-2008, 10:07 PM   #1775
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I'm making an fb group, just to start with. here's the description so far...and yes, it's international. because, well, it already is, supposing you guys all want to join :) i'm planing on using something like bravenet to make a website...unless someone out there knows how to do that? i can manage, but i'm not great at it. hmm...i also (deep breath) plan on *eventually* registering this as a nonprofit organization in the US, which is gonna take some paperwork, but will let us be tax-exempt if we end up taking donations in order to support affiliated ministries, allow us to send materials out, etc. Won't be necessary unless we actually get around to doing that sort of thing, so I'll wait until it happens, if it does, because legal stuff is just...ick. :)

oh, my goodness, i can't believe this is happening, it seems crazy :)

Adamah International
Global
Basic InfoType: Organizations - Religious Organizations
Description: Dedicated to educating those in ministry and the church about the ones that need them the most.

Adamah is a hebrew word that means earth, or dirt. It's where Adam's name came from, because he was created out of the dust of the earth. It's a reminder to all those I want to work with that we are all equal in God's eyes--all of us come from the same dirt, and from dirt at that. So instead of being judgemental or looking down on one another, instead of tearing each other down, Adamah is dedicated to teaching Christians how to love and support their brothers and sister.



This group is for everyone who feels like they have been forgotten, judged, looked down on, or like they just plain don't fit in at church--whatever the reason is.

This group is for the self-harmers, the eating disordered, the abused, the depressed, the broken, the disabled, the addicted, the outcasts...and anyone else not mentioned on this list. If you have piercings and brightly colored hair and can't walk into a church without someone trying to convert you even thought you're a christian already...if you've tried and tried and can't pretend you have it all together...if you have any kind of problem that seems taboo in the church today...we're here for you. This group is for the spiritually sick who know they need God, and for the people who love them...and for all the people who are sick and tired of seeing the church turn away all the people that need its help the most, for those who want to help and don't know how to.

Because we're dedicated to changing that. One person at a time.




This organization is just starting up, but we'd love to have you involved. Currently the plan is to provide a bridge for existing ministries to connect with each other, and to provide a resource for those who are frustrated with the fact their churches and ministries seem to not know how to deal with problems in today's world. We aim to be an organization that can help YOU be an agent of change wherever you are right now, to support you and be here when you feel like giving up. Brothers and sisters, the situation isn't hopeless...and we are going to do everything we can to help, whether that means providing books and pamphlets, or the contact information of someone who can advise you because they have experience in reaching these people.

Healthy people don’t need a doctor—sick people do. I have come to call sinners, not those who think they are already good enough. -Mark 2:17

For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.' " So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way...Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. --Romans 14: 7-19

The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me,
because the LORD has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives
and release from darkness for the prisoners,
to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,
to comfort all who mourn,
and provide for those who grieve in Zion—
to bestow on them a crown of beauty
instead of ashes,
the oil of gladness
instead of mourning,
and a garment of praise
instead of a spirit of despair.
They will be called oaks of righteousness,
a planting of the LORD
for the display of his splendor.
They will rebuild the ancient ruins
and restore the places long devastated;
they will renew the ruined cities
that have been devastated for generations.
Aliens will shepherd your flocks;
foreigners will work your fields and vineyards.
And you will be called priests of the LORD,
you will be named ministers of our God.
You will feed on the wealth of nations,
and in their riches you will boast.
Instead of their shame
my people will receive a double portion,
and instead of disgrace
they will rejoice in their inheritance;
and so they will inherit a double portion in their land,
and everlasting joy will be theirs.
"For I, the LORD, love justice;
I hate robbery and iniquity.
In my faithfulness I will reward them
and make an everlasting covenant with them.
Their descendants will be known among the nations
and their offspring among the peoples.
All who see them will acknowledge
that they are a people the LORD has blessed."
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Old 16-11-2008, 11:12 PM   #1776
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I also agree about the ED Thread, Sorry Eryn, I didn't mean to exclude it, I was just going by the title of this thread when I said SIer's, I wasn't thinking, Sorry guys :( forgive me ?
no forgiveness needed lol :)

it would be horrible if my parents read my journal...i would HATE that...

and jacie it sounds like you've got something really good going on :) that's exciting =D



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Old 16-11-2008, 11:45 PM   #1777
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i'm excited too :)

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Old 16-11-2008, 11:47 PM   #1778
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Aquatic - I'll go add that now =]


and does anyone have the link to this thread's group???

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Old 17-11-2008, 12:00 AM   #1779
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i'll find you on the adamah group and send you an invite. it's hidden, for obvious purposes
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Thank you much =] (ok, I really need to stop using that smiley...it's replacing the use of a period)

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