actually if a mental health professional is worried that the individual is going to harm themself, and/or another person fatally, they have a duty of care to make people aware of what is going on. As well, if you have signed an agreement that your therapist can speak with your parents, then she has all grounds to do so.
Jenna, sometimes we have to face things as scary as they are. What is the worry about your parents finding out? You can't fight this on your own, clearly you are struggling, so why not allow those that love and care for you assist you in this time. Having a voice in your head is not something that you can get rid of, just by wishing it away. You need to deal with things...a lot of the times what we think is a voice, is really thought manfestations that will go away once you start unraveling what isn't being said. I really think that you should consider actively dealing with your mental health issues, I think it would be of great benefit to you, and allow you to get to a stage in your treatment that you can move forward. This isn't all that there is, so give yourself the permission and chance to endeavour all the possibilites that lay before you.
it's hard work, but you can do it. good luck. stay safe.
actually if a mental health professional is worried that the individual is going to harm themself, and/or another person fatally, they have a duty of care to make people aware of what is going on. As well, if you have signed an agreement that your therapist can speak with your parents, then she has all grounds to do so.
Thanks for correcting me^^. And Jenna, I agree with everything that completely_gone has said. You need the help, so please get it. You're better off letting your parents find out about it and helping you than you are at not getting help, so please Jenna...tell them.
Gwen xx
(sorry if I'm bad at giving advice, I really am trying)
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"I let my guard down, and you caught me by surprise" Sonic Syndicate
add me if you want. just let me know you're from RYL.
would it be possible to seek out a shrink on your own, and noy give them your parents contact info?
Half Psychotic Sick Hypnotic We sat and waited for the sea
To stretch out so that we could disappear
Into the endlessness of blue Into the horror of the truth We are far less than we knew
why couldnt you? their insurance paying for it or something? if thats your reason you could see about finding the nearest free or sliding scale place if theres one near you...
Half Psychotic Sick Hypnotic We sat and waited for the sea
To stretch out so that we could disappear
Into the endlessness of blue Into the horror of the truth We are far less than we knew
Jenna have you tried talking to the counsellors at your school. that is a free service offered to students, perhaps it's something that you could look into?
Whether you want to talk to me again or not, it's your choice. I like talking to you, but not when you keep telling me how badly you want to cut or od.
What do you expect me to do? I'm not going to say, "all right Jenna, go cut yourself. Go OD, it's fine with me."
I can't stop you. I'm not there physically. Only you can stop yourself. Only you can help yourself. That doesn't mean I don't want to talk to you anymore.
I just don't really know what you expect me to say to you when you tell me, "I need to cut, or, I need to od."
I just feel like, no matter what happens, it's always the same shit. Even with this thread. It seems like it keeps going in circles over and over.
Surely you are as sick of dealing with it as we all are. You need to make some choices here. You need to do something other than complain about how you can't do anything.
You can do something. Tell someone real. Tell someone who is not online, but can actually make a difference in your REAL life. Because we can't help you there.
I could not have put it better myself. That is exactly the truth.
On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Jenna we are not sick of you, people say things when they are worried and upset that aren't always what they mean. There are people here who really care about you and I think that just because a couple of people don't know how to help you doesn't mean that you should give up.
Well it breaks my heart to see you this way,
The beauty in life, where's it gone?
And somebody told me you were doing okay,
Somehow I guess they were wrong.
Jenna, no one once said that you were bothering them, or that they were sick of you. Rather they want you to be okay, and get help for what you are dealing with. It seems to me that people are indicating that they want you to get better and get the help that you deserve, and they are doing you a favour by voicing that they can't help you get that help. They can always be here to lend an ear for support, but they can't change your REAL life because they aren't in your real life and that's why it is so important that you create a support network outside of RYL too.
I hope that you continue to ask your friend at college for support, and that you really take some time and decide where you want to go from where you are? what do you want to change? what are you prepared to do for change to occur? Recovery isn't easy, but it's a process that you can work at with a professional who can help you to begin to unravel all that needs to be said, outted, yelled or cried about. It's easy to say that you don't like how you are feeling and you want it to change. but the harder part is doing that work, because nothing is going to change unless we allow ourselves too. you can do this Jenna, and people on RYL can see that you can do that and that's why people are suggesting that you seek real help, ryl is great to feel not alone, to feel similar to others, etc, but it doesn't take the place for mental health services.
Please take care of yourself, and write when you need too. Stay safe and well and when in need seek out the support of those around you, if you are tired of feeling the way you are...do something positive and proactive to make things different. You have more control than you know...believing that is half the battle.
Jenna, noone is sick of you. quite the opposite. everyone is so willing to help you but unfortunately since we are all just names on the other end of the computer there is not much we can do to actually make a difference in your life. only you can do that. with the help of your therapist/parents/real life friends.
what do you want out of life sweety? if you could click your fingers what would you want to change? how can you go about making those changes happen?
try and think of the way your parents have reacted in the past when your therapist has told them something. have they been supportive? if they have then maybe you can think about telling them about T? or maybe if they arent supportive you can talk to your therapist and tell her/him that when they tell your parents something its actually detrimental to your recovery. maybe strike some sort of deal with them that you'll be honest with your therapist if you get confidentiality rights the same as everyone else.
i know its scary and i know its difficult but the things that are worth doing are usually scary and diffficult. if you dont think you can talk to your therapist then put it down in a letter instead. explain how frightened you are when your parents find out and explain how it makes you hide things.
Take care sweety, noone on RYL wants you to shut up or leave or anything else, they just care and dont know what to do to help.
No one here is sick of you. We just want you to get better. We want you to get the help that you really need to help you get your life back.
Sam is right. All we are are just names on the other end of the computer, and there is nothing we can do to help you, but support you. We can't offer the same assisstance that a professional can. I'm sorry that there isn't much more that I can do or say, but you have to get the help. I really hope that you're doing better.
Gwen
xxxxx
"I let my guard down, and you caught me by surprise" Sonic Syndicate
add me if you want. just let me know you're from RYL.
If we believe you why wouldn't they? Didn't you once say your cousin found out about the sexual abuse? Well then your parents will believe them right? And your parents know you suffer from mental health issues so to explain to them that the rape caused this break in your personalities..... it is not hard to believe. Now just try this once to believe in your parents so that they will be given the opportunity to believe in you! Jenna you are very cared for and I really hope you get the help you need. Meanwhile Kitty is right, find a therapist who will not be able to contact your parents if you do not want to yet tell them. Keep in touch.
Clarification of a therapist's right to develge confidentiaity: Yes if you disclose an intention to harm another, they legally must notify THAT PERSON or the police. Not your parents. As for harm to self... the therapist must find that you are in immediate harm and have the plan and means to carry it out. Then they will hospitalize you or notify people once again. But your therapist may not disclose any other details you discuss without either your consent or a warrant. The therapists who have defied your confidence can not only lose their license, but you could sue them for a very large settlements. You might want to remind your therapists of these facts.
"Death is the next great adventure"
Dumbledore, Harry Potter
The day I stop living just to protect and care for others, will be the most selfish day in my life.
Thanks for the support....i need to rant for a bit tho....
I AM SO FUCKING PISSED OFF....i dont even know what to do....i just ug every little thing is pissing me off and i cant sleep, eat, or stop thinking about death....so my friend comes up to me yesterday and tells me that i talk to her to much....and then we got kicked out of our dorms from 4pm yesterday until bloody 3am this morning....all because the power went out....growl and i had to spend the night with a friend who doesnt really want to talk to me....it was so fucking awkward....she didnt even say goodbye to me when i left...growl
i spent the whole day alone and not eatting....food makes me feel sick....i just want to curl up and die and i keep trying to find a flawless way....i just idk i give up....i dont deserve to be alive and now the one i love is being a bitch....
now i really wanna si and i got a major headache and ug its so fucking annoying i am pissing myself off just by writing this what the fuck is wrong with me growl i jsut want the pain to end......
help is there when you need it...you just have to accept it
You do deserve to be alive Jenna! And you are not a bitch at all. You know I care for you very much and want to help you.. but what the others have said is true. You need to get the help hun, I know you can. You are strong and a good person, even though he denies it. Keep fighting and working hard...
*HUGS*
Matt
~Matt~
Susanna Kaysen: I'm ambivalent. In fact that's my new favorite word.
Dr. Sonia Wick: Do you know what that means, ambivalence?
Susanna Kaysen: I don't care.
Dr. Sonia Wick: If it's your favorite word, I would've thought you would...
Susanna Kaysen: It *means* I don't care. That's what it means.
I love you truly.
YAY!! 
I'm glad you came back.
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