maybe the psychosis etc specific threads should stay, as people are already settled in them and stuff but talk more about symptoms in individual threads. that's what i thought you meant anyway (but can't see anything wrong with having a thread about symptoms on it's own for more than one person too)
Stop thinking about what I want, what he wants, what your parents want. What do you want?
I very much agree with the last point Irene. When people ask me re why I have harmed, what is stressing me, etc, I hardly ever know. Sometimes I can find out by talking to someone and them pointing things out. Perhaps if we learn to express what it is we are dealing with, it wouldn't get to the point of having to sh.
EDIT - I meant the last point of your earlier post, geez this is moving fast
"Everything is possible through Christ, who gives me strength". Phillipians 4:13
Im not exactly sure, but maybe something like worthlessness/low self esteem/ not good enough? I guess that can be related to a lot of things like depression/bpd/EDs/general self harming etc.
I just thought of that because ive noticed a lot of people lately saying that their self harm isnt "bad enough", or they feel they need a diagnosis to be validated.
Or maybe something with a simple focus like anxiety management? Sometimes i think anxiety can grow into paranoia too.
maybe the psychosis etc specific threads should stay, as people are already settled in them and stuff but talk more about symptoms in individual threads. that's what i thought you meant anyway (but can't see anything wrong with having a thread about symptoms on it's own for more than one person too)
Yeah, I wasn't advocating for those threads to be removed but perhaps other threads with different focus.
"Everything is possible through Christ, who gives me strength". Phillipians 4:13
can i defend the psychosis thread in particular? i just wanted to say that it's not, or at least, wasn't intended to be a 'diagnosis thread' but a 'symptom' one. i always think of psychotic symptoms as just symptoms, not a disorder in itself (although it can be). i mean, on that thread, people have lots of different diagnoses (or none). i don't know if the same could be said of the other threads mentioned, but i just wanted to say that in a totoally non-overly-defensive way!
and to agree with the discussion, i think a general move away from diagnoses would be an excellent thing, except where necessary. i know i find it hard to reply to posts where they say 'i have such-and-such'.
I've been on mental health support forums where they have separate boards for schizophrenia, mood disorders, ADHD etc so can see why this could be difficult. It's a lot to fit in one board really.
I know this comment isn't very helpful but just an observation.
Stop thinking about what I want, what he wants, what your parents want. What do you want?
I'm sure that is really helpful for those with psychosis.
I hear voices and see things but not psychotic as they are "pseudo-hallucinations" apparently b/c I know they can't be real. I did try using the psychosis thread to get tips etc but decided not to very quickly due to not feeling serious enough and a bit of a fraud.
"Everything is possible through Christ, who gives me strength". Phillipians 4:13
aw, obviously you know that feeling "a fraud" isnt right, but you honestly shouldnt feel like that. Just because you can reason that it cant really be happening, doesnt mean it doesnt bother you, as the voices and things will still be happening. xxx
Yeah, i dont think we need a thread for every single symptom, and obviously no-one is saying you CANT talk about diagnosis's, but maybe when posting for advice on a certain issue, making it more related to what it is exactly thats bothering you and why, and hopefully people will be able to help more, and the poster can get more insight into their problems/symptoms/the way they feel, without feeling the need a diagnosis is necessary xxxx
I have only skimmed over the last couple of pages, so apologies if I'm repeating or if it's out of order.
I agree very much that symptoms are more important than diagnoses.
And the ideas that have been discussed in this thread are really helpful.
But I kind of think that sometimes the very replies that are probably intended to discourage self-diagnosing & too much focus on a diagnosis probably have the opposite effect.
Like, person A posts "I have x, y and z symptoms, do you think it could be disorder a" and then person B, C and D all reply saying exactly the same thing "oh, we can't diagnose you, it could just be hormones, if you really think you have a problem you'll just have to go to a doctor".
And I do understand the point of that, maybe it's just me but it seems to come across as a bit exclusive, like "oh, you probably don't have disorder a, you're probably over-reacting". I dunno, maybe I'm just reading too much into it. But I think it would be good if we as a community - and I know some people already do - could focus on as well as encouraging that person to get professional help, assuring them that what they're dealing with is important either way, and including some coping mechanisms etc in our initial replies.
Oh, sorry, I'm rambling. Not meaning to offend anyone.
Nah I agree, if its a problem in your life and causing you distress it doesnt matter what name its given or not, the problem is still there
We should be encouraging people to get help and treatment, for their problems, not encouraging them to go to their dr for a diagnosis? I agree with you void, but i think maybe people get a bit fed up with the sort of "do you think i have x?" and are just repeating that they cant diagnose, but giving people a push in the right direction, and support for when they first go to the dr/psych would be good too. As it can be very intimidating/scary etc.
Im just rambling too. xxx
(allot of my opinions and whatnot are from personal experience/what i find helpful, so i understand that people wont necessarily agree or think its a good idea )
Afterall a diagnosis is just a name for a group of symptoms.
I think this might give the people more help with what to reply with and how to deal with the symptoms that are bothering us. Rather than listing illness's and meds.
Love that view of a diagnosis and thinking about it that way helps me feel slightly better about stuff.
Haven't really got anything to add, just that I like that view of a diagnosis.
Gatsby believed in the green light, the orgastic future
that year by year recedes before us.
It eluded us then, but that's no matter - tomorrow we
will run faster, stretch out our arms further...
And one fine morning - So we beat on, boats against the current,
borne back ceaselessly into the past.
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