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Old 10-10-2007, 10:07 PM   #121
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I hate to be rude, but you do need professional help and if you do people here can support you with that.
but otherwise oyu will never get better as these are only words on a screen and it is wasting peoples time as you won't try helping yourself.

you can go to the doctors, you just need to take a deep breath and face your fears.

it's scary, i know it's scary, but it has to be done.

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Old 10-10-2007, 10:11 PM   #122
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Totally with platinum on that one

If you dont help yourself.....who is gonna?

We can only baby you for so long here....and essentially it will not help one iota compared to a good session of hard therapy

Your choice....if you want to listen to us...listen....if not....

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Old 10-10-2007, 10:20 PM   #123
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also, I do not deny that you were asulted in I.P
But it is impossible for that person to get into your brain and take you over.
It is just your imagination taking over personified by your depression.

You have to see someone and get professional help for this.

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Old 11-10-2007, 01:16 AM   #124
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i have a fucking shrink ok.....but if u dont want me here talking about my shit i guess i understand


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Old 11-10-2007, 01:32 AM   #125
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Jenna, I don't think people are suggesting that you stop posting, I think it is good that you are able to communicate what is going on for you and how you are feeling and thinking, however I do see the points that have been highlighted above. RYL isn't going cure you, people's words aren't going to make whatever it is that you experiencing go away. That being said, getting some professional help is a good thing, I am glad that you are seeing a therapist of sorts, are you being honest with that person about is really going on for you? I do agree that your thoughts are likely just manifesting themselves, and that's okay; with work you will learn how to cope with this, and work past and through whatever happened before and be able to move forward. It is important though Jenna, that you give yourself the chance to get this support, you have to work from your end too, it's easy to sit and talk to a psychiatrist/psychologist/social worker whatever and go through the motions of talking about things, but nothing is going to change unless you let it change. You can't go back and re-create the past, what you can do it create what you want your future to look like.
Please take care of yourself, and know that we are here.

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Old 11-10-2007, 02:51 AM   #126
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ok im not making this shit up....y the fuck would i....maybe idk all the details or im discribing it right......but im not lying ok....thats the last ill say on this subject since obviously i shouldnt be telling anyone....i fucking knew i shouldnt have said anything



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Old 11-10-2007, 02:58 AM   #127
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afraid to tell.....im sorry i cant.....*puts head down in shame*
Maybe it would be easier to write a letter or send an e-mail to your doc
You may even try giving him/her a link to this thread so they know what has been going on and what support has been offered.


elaborateddream... Not every case of ANYTHING is the same. Assuming she is lying, stating that and not supporting at all is a bit uncalled for.. unless you wanna tell me where you got your phd in psychology. Even if it IS fabricated.. the amount of time spent on this "story" means there IS something damn serious going on.
whether she needs support for a form of DID, Schizophrenia, or psychotic episode of depression, hell... even pathological lying... she still needs support and came to us for it. THAT is real, and not a lie.. even if the rest is all in her head. telling her off like that is completely counterproductive.
though i am now wondering about pathological liars who may come on here... its a real illness... yet the symptoms are technically prohibited here..... hmmm.... *ponders*

That said, and considering how scary Jenna is on messenger sometimes.. i think all thats left for RYL to do is urge her to tell her shrink about all this so the underlying issues can be discovered and resolved, and support her in gaining the strength and courage to do so. None of us are lisenced to diagnose any problem she is or is not suffering from.. but im sure we all can agree she SI's... so she belongs here and deserves our support.

Jenna ... please keep posting, but understand that it does hurt us to see you go through this and we do feel helpless when you just say you "can't" when we are giving all the advice we can.



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Old 11-10-2007, 03:11 AM   #128
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I admit, I don't have a phd in psychology. HOWEVER, the information I gave you was stuff that someone who DOES have a phd in psychology told me.
I don't deny that Jenna most likely does have a problem.
I think that it would be a very good idea for her to talk to a shrink about it.

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Old 11-10-2007, 03:18 AM   #129
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its also bad to assume shes lying just cuz what she says doesnt match what you know of any disorder.
She's about to leave RYL for good now and im desperately trying to keep her from cutting right now on messenger.
which is pretty fukkin hard with nuthin but a keyboard.



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Old 11-10-2007, 03:28 AM   #130
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Jenna if you choose to leave RYL than that is you making a conscious choice to leave, no one is forcing you to leave. I think people have valid points there are sides and different viewpoints to every situation, that being said I think and really urge that you discuss what is going on for you with a professional as they are only going to be able to be support and helpful if you actually tell them what is going on. I have a similar experience with feeling like I am being over taken by someone else, but really it's our thoughts manifestations, our fears, our worries, and everything else that takes over. I can hear in your words that you type that you obviously are feeling overwhelmed with all that you're experiencing, so why not starting dealing with it, and start on the road of feeling better? You are still Jenna, and always will be Jenna. People obviously care for you, as they have shown a tremendous amount of support for you. However hun, things aren't going to change unless you speak out and get these issues sorted out, it's scary but it's necessary.

Please take a moment and take care of yourself.

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Old 11-10-2007, 03:36 AM   #131
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I dunno if its good or bad that shes cutting as Jenna now and not just when "he makes her"... is that a step towards getting rid of him??
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She did say she is not intending to kill herself, which was my main concern... but there was talk of wanting to go "deep so it never heals"

I'm so worried now....

*waits and hopes for her to come back*



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Old 11-10-2007, 06:37 PM   #132
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Jenna don't leave again.

It REALLY wouldnt be the same without you

Thinking of you


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Old 11-10-2007, 07:05 PM   #133
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woah, i have NO idea how hard this must be for you and your friends, but from what i can see it plays a BIG part on many peoples lives that know you wether it be via RYL or offline

I hope you get the courage and strength to make 'it/him' go away, and sort it out with your doctor. You need help, you need to get your life back.

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Old 12-10-2007, 04:03 PM   #134
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i have a fucking shrink ok.....but if u dont want me here talking about my shit i guess i understand

Where did we say leave.

We said you needed psychiatric help that we could help support you through, but other than that we can't do anything else.

No-one here can make it go away.

Please read what we are saying.
No-one has been cruel.

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Old 12-10-2007, 04:32 PM   #135
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Please Jenna, I am begging you, DON'T LEAVE!!!! We are helping you to the best of our ability(well, mostly other people, I'm doing the best I can though). All that we're saying is that you NEED to talk to your shrink. I'm sorry if you're scared to, but you need to fight past the fear. If you tell your shrink, they will be able to give you a lot of help. Trust me. I'm sorry that you feel like you need to leave, but you don't need to leave.

I think you need to stay on RYL to get the advice you need, get phychiatric help, and fight T.

Please don't go.



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Old 14-10-2007, 08:21 PM   #136
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shit.


is she ok?

jenna-why are you scared to get help? can it be any scarier than having T control your life?

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Old 14-10-2007, 08:30 PM   #137
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Hi.....sorry i needed a little break from this site....i am scared to get help because every time i bring something new up to my shrink she tells my parents.....and i dont want my parents finding out that i have a voice in my head......

thanks for all of the support....



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Old 14-10-2007, 08:43 PM   #138
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why does she tell your parents? is she allowed to do that?

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Old 14-10-2007, 10:36 PM   #139
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idk y but all my shrinks in the past have told.....even when i told them not to.....i dont think its legal but idk...



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Old 15-10-2007, 02:33 PM   #140
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it's not legal to tell your parents. shrinks are supposed to keep EVERYTHING confidentia. the only exception is if you are trying to kill yourself, which you're not. so yeah. they shouldn't be telling your parents unless you give them permission to. i know this because my sister had a shrink for a little over year, so yeah.



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