I'm certain your blood and hair have the same DNA.
This whole things is just really strange and confusing now. I just hope they finally figure out what happened and although I doubt it, I hope Maddy's ok.
Mmm I've been reading about Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy. I suppose its very very very possible that her mother could have this and convince the father she was abducted?
just because you've forgotten doesn't mean you're forgiven
ok about the freezer - im not talking commercial waqlk in freezer here, just one of those large ones that are like a crate or something, they lie on the floor (not stood up like the ordinary ones).
i dont think its such a stretch to say at least ONE of the families there has one.
and about the find maddie fund - you know on the oficial website its been stuck at just over the million mark since they broke a million?
seems very odd to me. no-one really knows how much money has really gone into this fund, but im betting its far more than a million
Chloe I think so, I know that quite often the 'well' parent doesnt realise its happening, the sufferer starts with small things and then as they reap the effects they find new and more disturbing ways of causing damage. I've only ever read books about it but quite often the cause of death is accidental, like over salting.
I dont think the parents did it.. for the reasons they have become suspects there can be an explanation... the dna found in the car, they could have had some of her clothing or a teddy or soemthing of hers with her dna on it put it in the car, therefor her dna is now in the car.
I did have other things to say but i have totally forgotton, when i remember i will come back...
^ Unless she'd bled on her teddy or something that wouldn't work though, and I think the police's angle is that if they'd had a teddy that she'd bled on recently, was it the parents that caused her to bleed on it, ie. caused her to come to some sort of harm?
But hair samples don't contain as much DNA information as blood, so there could be a mix-up in theory which may be why they're still awaiting more results.
How many people leave their children unattended around the world every day without mishap? I routinely went and played in the woods with my friends after school from the age of five. Were my parents negligent? It's a massive leap of logic to get from leaving children alone to saying they left their children alone therefore they're somehow involved in her disappearance.
I too was allowed out on my own from a young age.
However, I do think that the fact that I was in my local area with other children changes things.
I think one mai thing is the language barrier.
Also, in your local area it is quite likely that other parents/adults will know/at least recognise you.
Also, after school is a bit different from being left at home alone late in the evening. My older brothers looked after my younger brother and I if my parents went out in the evening.
Aside from that point, I personally think it is extremely unlikely that Maddy is still alive.
It's awful, but it's been so long and with the amount of press surrounding it, whoever took her is not going to keep her alive.
For what it's worth it was worth all the while. I hope you had the time of your life...
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I don't know what i think about this. I've said from the very start that i thought something wasn't quite right about it, but i'm very reluctant to believe the parents have concealed an accidental death or there's any Munchausens by proxy situation.
If the car was hired after Maddie's disappearance, how could they possibly have moved the body in it without being spotted by the thousand and one members of the press following them 24/7? They would have had to do everything to cover this up before they ever went out for that meal.. it just seems too far fetched to me.
Also, they haven't confirmed that the DNA in the car is Maddie's yet... they've been very vague on this, and it's still possible that the traces are actually her Mothers or Sisters if they have a close DNA profile.
I do think there's something else going on. I don't think the parents have killed her, deliberately or accidentally, but i do think there's a vital piece of information being withheld by one of them.
I guess this is one of those things we can only ever speculate wildly on though - we know very little really about the investigation/circumstances.
I don't think Maddie is alive, but i do hope the truth makes itself known very soon, for the sake of the twins more than anyone else.
I too was allowed out on my own from a young age.
However, I do think that the fact that I was in my local area with other children changes things.
I think one mai thing is the language barrier.
Also, in your local area it is quite likely that other parents/adults will know/at least recognise you.
Also, after school is a bit different from being left at home alone late in the evening. My older brothers looked after my younger brother and I if my parents went out in the evening.
Sorry but again, I don't think it makes a huge amount of difference at all. I shouldn't imagine that the language is a major factor in being abducted whatsoever, unless you suppose that if one can talk to ones kidnapper in his native language he is somehow less likely to abduct you. Likewise being in your own locality - James Bulger, Sarah Payne, the Soham children etc. etc. were all taken and killed in near to where they lived. Time of day, again, is this really a major factor? All of the above I've mentioned were taken in broad daylight. I don't believe there's any evidence to suggest that significantly more young children are abducted later in the evening than are earlier in the day.
I know I seem to have a bee in my bonnet over this whole thing, but I'm just really tired of people and the media assuming, speculating and even stating as fact that the parents are somehow involved in this or, if they weren't, that they deserve it anyway on the grounds that they were negligent without any evidence whatsoever to back it up.
To be honest, my main concern is for Madeleine; there is a little four year old girl out there and all i can hope right now is that, if she's alive, she's being well treated and that if she isn't, well, i just hope she didn't have to suffer.
I have to agree though with several of the posts that have been made; many, many people go missing each year, many of them are indeed children and more often than not, they're never found. Mothers and fathers go missing, and yet there's no publicity either. So perhaps in the light of the McCann case, there needs to be greater resources put into other missing persons cases.
But hair samples don't contain as much DNA information as blood, so there could be a mix-up in theory which may be why they're still awaiting more results.
Although that's neither here nor there really.
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Yes. Basically, all cells of a person would contain the same DNA.
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^ Unless she'd bled on her teddy or something that wouldn't work though, and I think the police's angle is that if they'd had a teddy that she'd bled on recently, was it the parents that caused her to bleed on it, ie. caused her to come to some sort of harm?
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I dont think the parents did it.. for the reasons they have become suspects there can be an explanation... the dna found in the car, they could have had some of her clothing or a teddy or soemthing of hers with her dna on it put it in the car, therefor her dna is now in the car.
I did have other things to say but i have totally forgotton, when i remember i will come back...
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Can hair and blood samples yield the same DNA? I don't know if that made sense. Like, if they took the blood sample from the vehicle and a sample of her hair from bedding or clothing or something, could they compare those two and obtain a solid result, or a result at all?
all body cells yield the exact same dna.
and you dont need madelines celsl ot comapre it too, all you need is a family sample.
esp as they are in a foreign country a family match will be pretty conclusive.
and all they will need from the blood is one dna strand and then use pcr to replicate it into a readable amount.
dna tracing shoudl eb one of the most easy and conclusive evidence paths around nowadays so i dont see why it hasnt been sorted yet.
however i do know that the portugese police investigatiosn work differently in that durign a case no info can be realeased so they wotn deny or confirm anything, hence the lack of confirmation and masses of speculation
How many people leave their children unattended around the world every day without mishap? I routinely went and played in the woods with my friends after school from the age of five. Were my parents negligent? It's a massive leap of logic to get from leaving children alone to saying they left their children alone therefore they're somehow involved in her disappearance.
completely different thing here in you going off alone to your parents leaving you alone.
also you were odler, had friends and your parents had a rough idea what you were doign and where you were.
in thsi case all the kids were under 4 alone in an unlocked, un familar room out of sight of their parents in a foreign country.
it not even liek if the kids do wander off they can get much help as the language is different.
The thing with Munchausens is that the liklihood of both parents having it is slim to none and if the mum did have it then the chances are she would have been a very sickly child and with her father being a Dr to it just seems a bit too far fetched
With the freezer _ they are on holiday so it would be a bit odd for one of them to have a freezer that wouldnt have been searched especially as they didnt spend to long there>
As to the blood i havent heard it confirmed as definately Maddys though she did cut her knee so that may explain the blood
It is all to wierd but I think that the fact they were allowed home suggests that the Portugese police were on to something.
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I know I seem to have a bee in my bonnet over this whole thing, but I'm just really tired of people and the media assuming, speculating and even stating as fact that the parents are somehow involved in this or, if they weren't, that they deserve it anyway on the grounds that they were negligent without any evidence whatsoever to back it up.
