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Old 09-05-2008, 03:26 AM   #101
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Im sorry i havent been here to say how things whent
ive been hiding so much and
unable to function my heads screwed up

The second appointment with psychiatrist was so bloody hard he bloody sat there and said i hoped youd brought some artwork

me ............silence...

well i brought you 50 pieces of my artwork the first session and you said i wont look at your artwork i might misinterpret it.

now you want to see some............ i didnt bring any

id done one the night before me in a straight jacket showing i cant escape my crap i wished he would have seen it

he said i noticed that in your first assesment session and in this second one you became really drawn into your trauma while you talked .

I could tell he was uncomfortable because i was talking about so many issues ive got, like he didnt want to know .

And he said david i feel that counselling for you wont help as you need more than 20 sessions and we can only offer 20.

me ........silence

i know that i must be a screwed up headcase if hes telling me i need more than 20 sessions. And ive had 2 counsellors, 2 psychiatrists, and 2 comm mental health nurses the nurses made me worse.

and because i wanted to see a psychologist my comm mental health nurse discharged me from her services with no support other than the dr while i was on a bloody long waiting list for the psychologist, then when i get it i have to be bloody seen and assessed by another psychiatrist

its bloody crazy

i wouldnt be seeing all these people if i was ok and some of them treated me badly no wonder im a screwed up headcase

i certainly feel like one screwed up headcase whose situation is serious

ive never had an official dignosis i wouldnt mind it would help me bloody deal with this crap no one tells me other than ive got
reactive depression, anxiety, trauma ,suicidal thinking, symptoms of ptsd which were flatly denied and a diagnosis refused

im sick and tired of all this crap telling me one thing then taking it back being shoved around.

i was shocked and scared when he said im afraid all i can offer is
Art therapy or group therapy

me....................silence..................... ........

ive been doing artwork ever since ive been on ryl i have 200 pieces of dark artwork, i know art therapy helps, i did an introduction to art therapy at college, but i need more help
as ive told him im doing artwork already

group therapy i dont see working i need a 1 to 1

theres no guarantee i can get art therapy or group counselling he didnt sound convincing. He was glad to see me go i see him again 22 may


im too tired to shout and scream which is all i wana do so much


i just cant deal with this im being shunted onto someone else i have so much crap that i didnt have the time in the two sessions of my assesment to tell the psych . I could see from his face he was uncomfortable and didnt want to get involved

how do you think i feel i need something to help me escape my crap or i will give up and im scared but i may do

i mean damn what the hell are people like me supposed to do i only want some help im so scared im not gona last and they dont care enough about me

i get shoved to someone else i cant go round and round in circles im so scared that there are long waiting lists ive already waited 8 10 months and if i have to wait to long i wont last

i feel so useless and scared im gona give up prety soon i see my dr again
later today 2pm friday i dont hold much hope i saw dr after seing the psychiatrist cause i was in a right mess she is trying to talk to my psychiatrist .

i dont see anything happening my si is still bad im trying not to do anything serious im just getting tired of fighting when i get no where

i never wanted this damn depression and SI if i could be well id be well already , they are the bloody professionals
it seems to me they dont have enough experience cause they havent
helped me

i hope i get somewhere im sick of all this

..............................screams

thanks for supporting me and listening

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Old 09-05-2008, 04:03 AM   #102
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Dave...I'm sorry friend, the way you have been treated is truely shocking. The Mental health services are so damn crap! Grrr! At the moment it is gone 4am here, but I promise to reply properly when I get up tomorrow. I just wanted you to know for now that I've read what you wrote and I care *offers you big warm hugs*





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Old 09-05-2008, 07:42 AM   #103
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Old 22-05-2008, 05:35 PM   #104
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" Triggering suicide self harm abuse "




" Im One Screwed Up Damaged Headcase "































forgive me if i ramble and it goes out of order im trying to remember what he said to me
i ended up walking the streets after my session like a zombie im really scared right now im one screwed up headcase.

I feel like giving up...its too much


I went to see the psychiatrist this morning for some answers, i couldnt sleep all last night , my appointment was 9:00am.

I was so scared of what he was going to say, i took some artwork with me to show him and i found out from a medical website for questions and answers that i posted about my situation. And i found out that a guy whose been through the same stuff i have, he was emotionally, and mentally abused by his wife or girlfriend and he suffered domestic violence from her.

He needed more than 20 sessions of counselling but was told he couldnt receive more than 20 sessions on nhs. He spoke to his dr and the dr spoke to the psychiatrist and arranged for the guy to go on another waiting list for counselling of more than 20 sessions.

So i thought my dr was going to talk to the psychiatrist,

well im stupid,

i asked the psych and he said oh i havent sent your dr a letter yet, and i havent spoken to her.

Me........ **** i can tell where this is going ,


me...i said i need to tell you how i was made to feel last session...i was made to feel abandoned and ignored by the system i feel like a complete
screwed up headcase because you said i needed more than 20 sessions to get better and you couldnt offer more than 20 sessions. i feel like im seriously screwed in the head from what you said to me but you wernt
offering me a way of getting better.

I was so bad i ended up self harming and feeling like i was a lost cause and i had no hope of recovery.

psych....he sort of aknowledged my concerns he said im writing to the
medical board about your situation as well as others who need more intensive counselling.

me...well i know that wont get anywhere...i said do u realise how it made me feel to hear you say i needed more than 20 sessions to get better yet i cant counsell you because you get traumatised and we only do 20 sessions.

i felt terrible and as tho im too damaged to get better.

the psychiatrist said i still dont see you getting one to one counselling which is why i said art therapy and group counselling. i spoke to the art therapist and hes gonna send you a letter in 2-3 weeks

me.......2-3 weeks damn

psych... i still dont know if he thinks your suitable and i wont see you now until the art therapist has spoken to you

me....oh hell so i have nothing until 2-3 weeks when i hear from art therapist

psych....yes thats correct

me....i just want to explode here i cant handle this crap anymore

me...i said ive done artwork myself ive created 200 pieces of work i still dont think seing an art therapist will help me enough, im saying to you i need more support....hes not listeneing to me

he looked at the artwork and i think he was shocked he aknowledged the trauma that i was showing in the artwork.

Me.......i really need to see someone else, i dont even think group therapy will help me i need a one to one

psych... er there arnt any groups locally i think theres one in burnley

me.....burnley....i cant go to burnley....arnt there any locally

psch...er no theres one coming up here but it will be 12-18 months before its up

Me.....OMG i cant wait 12-18 months im really scared of losing it and giving up i dont think i can last that long i dont think group therapy will help me,

psych....i understand your concerns and i agree with you

me......er what if you agree with me that its no good why am i being put forward for it.....im getting angry now and really scared

psych well its the best thing for now....the art therapist might be running a group

me im getting sick of this round and round, hes not listening to me and hes asked me exactly the same questions he asked me last time
i dont think he knows what hes doing ....sounds like he doesnt know what to do with me

me...im getting really distraught now hes asking me about how i was
well what do u think im very scared ive had a terrible time i had to self
injure last session, i feel like im gona give up and fall apart im crying now as i tell him again about my history.

i want to finish the job my ex wife and bully started, i wish i was dead and i cant cope with all the stuff i went through.

psych ...well i do want to see you get some counselling from us later on i think you need some

me.......what the **** your now saying you think i do need some counselling later........im getting a bloody headache here trying to follow you

you say i cant have counselling cause i get to traumatised and we cant give more than 20 sessions, then you admit group therapy isnt as effective as one to one counselling, then you say if i see the art therapist for now that will start you off

me....it might start me off but i wont have enough support i need more than that im scared of not coping............hell i just want to give up

im crying now and telling him i want to finish the job they started the
damaged part of me the 90% that is damaged and it wants to kill me and end my suffering, and 10% wants me to live

i said do you have any idea what its like to both want to die and want to live i said im sick of this its killing me

psych its clear you need to heal yourself inside you need to release the damage

me...i said yes i cant ignore this **** inside if i do it will kill me

oh god i wish id died in my relationship i wish id had a nervous breakdown

" bomb shell "

me ....i want to ask you a question ive been told by my two comm mental health nurses i have " Reactive Depression, anxiety, symptoms of PTSD,
and entrenched trauma.

yet when i asked about treatment for PTSD i was told to shut up and stop being a counsellor, stop looking on the internet..you will never get an official diagnosis for PTSD so dont ask again.

me...will i ver get an official diagnosis can you tell me from your assesment what im suffering.

psych ...well my diagnosis is different from theres

me...................**** whats he going to say im falling apart here

psych...... you have symptoms of " Borderline Personality Disorder " you dont have all the symptoms and it usually affects children at an early age through to adulthood . But adults who go through intense trauma can suffer from " Borderline Personality Disorder"

me ............im falling apart now hell **** you mean ive got symptoms of
" Borderline Personality Disorder as well as reactive depression, anxiety

hell i cant cope with this anymore IM ONE ****ED UP SCREWED UP HEADCASE i may as well just give up now i cant cope with this ****.

so you mean if id got all the symptoms of borderline personality disorder
id get an official diagnosis

psych....maybe we dont allways give a diagnosis cause it may make the patient worse.

me......god i cant be any worse than i already feel i only want to understand what the hell is wrong with me as no one has given me a straight answer.

psych...well some people think they are the ilness thats why we have to be carefull who we tell

im struggling to take this in im more screwed up than i thought i dont know if i can cope with this **** anymore im really scared the art therapy wont be enough to deal with my ****

im scared im gona explode and fall apart or do something stupid im scared im gona give up the fight

i need to see my dr again as i have no support until i see the art therapist, my psychiatrist did say you can ring me if you need to

me.........i said surely not to give you a load of my stuff im struggling with.

he said you can ring me

im worried now i dont know if i can ring him ,

my heads full of **** and im really scared now of knowing ive got bloody symptoms of
borderline personality disorder ontop of all my other ****....its to much

i just want to die to run away

i left his office in a daze and feeling ditached i ended up walking the streets for hours

im really scared now its to much to deal with

i ****ing hate my ex wife and my bully i want to hurt them so badly

oh he t
he psych said we need to keep an eye on you if i feel your at risk or you will hurt others
i started saying oh you mean kicking the **** out of my bully
or you mean running him down in my car

he looked at me and said yes if you might i need to be able to break confidentiallity and talk to others

me........i said i understand that, im my going over all sorts of things i could do to him if i ever got the courage to


im screwed so screwed......im a headcase and im gona fall apart
im a screwed up headcase im really fvcked up in the head

i wish id never survived that **** i wish id escaped it now

i dont know what the hell im doing anymore

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Old 22-05-2008, 06:59 PM   #105
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Hey dave sorry to hear that yer struggling but yer a such a great person and we have missed ye loads. I hope yer are ok take care of yerself

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Old 22-05-2008, 07:02 PM   #106
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*snuggles you so close*
im so sorry Dave.
im sorry i havent been as supportive as i should have been lately.
please know that youre in my thoughts.
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Old 22-05-2008, 07:08 PM   #107
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I read most of it and i will read the rest later. I think it is shocking that they are offering 20 sessions of couseling. Im sorry that yer therapist is not helping ye maybe change it. Plaese dont give up i know its hard. I been there plenty of time. your not a screw up

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Old 22-05-2008, 08:34 PM   #108
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Old 25-05-2008, 04:29 PM   #109
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darklkill,
Im sorry its taken me so long to reply im having a hard time, your words are comforting to me, its so kind of you to say im a great person, and that youve missed me loads, thank you.

Im doing my best to take care of myself, you please do the same and look after you.

Thank you for reading my post, and saying its shocking that the NHS only offer 20 sessions, anyone whose in my position of needing more help seem to be ignored and shoved onto other things that wont help.

This psychiatrist i saw is my third one, he was only with me to assess me to see if i deserved counselling, I was confused because he said at start of session im not gona recieve one to one couselling, it wouldnt help me, yet half way through the session he said he would be putting me forward for counselling with them????

God im confused as to whats happening, im scared now trying to get drs appoint asap, i cant change my psychiatrist just yet until i see what happens.

Im scared and worry i wont have enough support, im trying not to give up ive been fighting so long, everyone here at ryl are amazing they have supported me and held me up and given me hope. I just get times where i cant cope.

Its comforting to hear you have been in my situation many times and you pulled through , i hope i can pull through to, it depends on how long i can hold on.

hugs you and take care of yourself

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Yellow,
Thanks for your snuggles they really help me just now,
*snuggles* you back, and thanks for caring about me, please dont say sorry for thinking you havent been supportive of me, your words and snuggles mean everything to me.

Its so kind of you to have me in your thoughts, i to will have you in my thoughts please take good care of yourself .

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Rory,
Its really good to see you again, thank you for telling me who you are, i didnt recognise your username, Thank you so much for saying i can pm you for a chat, i will do that. My heads been all over the place and its taken me time to catch up.

i will hang in there best i can thank you so much for your support

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I'm sorry it's so hard for you and you're not getting the support you deserve *hugs*

irkenvader,
thank you for your support and understanding it really means alot to me, and thanks for your hugs.


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I give up.....................let me die




Drs appointment today 8:40am
3 weeks after seing psychiatrist,
Dr- i still havent received a letter from your psychiatrist whats happening

me - youve had nothing from the psychiatrist at all,
i cant do this **** much longer dr he doesnt care ......i just cant cope with all this

me- what nothing its been 3 bloody weeks he doesnt give a ****
im getting really angry i told him you were trying to talk to him and hes not got hold of you. he didnt care as he said to me, oh ive been meaning to send your dr a letter ive just not got round to it yet,

me - Im sick and tired of fighting to get what i need.Its been 3 weeks and i havent heard from this art therapist .

i have nothing

im gona give up i just cant do this anymore

the psychiatrist told me i get to traumatised so he didnt think i should recieve one to one counselling and they nhs only do 20 sessions . And its clear i need more than 20 sessions.

im screwed then ............................... so screwed

psychiatrist - er you have symptoms of borderline personality disorder,

me - fvck im really screwed up then arnt i i feel so damaged and messed up ..........im such a ...............................lost cause
theres no hope ........................................its to much for me

psychiatrist- well all i can offer is art therapy or group therapy dave, you wont hear from the art therapist for 3 weeks and he should send u a letter, you wont see me now for 5 weeks

me- what i wont see you for 5 weeks **** im gona give up i am

psychiatrist, until u see what art therapist says

me - well that will be a useless thing for me anyway ive told you i need
more than art therapy u just dont listen

psychiatrist - nearest group therapy is burnley, oh and we are doing a group locally but not for the next 12-18 months

i cant wait 12-18 months its to late i cant last that long i cant

i just cant deal with this dr he doesnt care i felt like a screwed up headcase who is too messed up to be treated and i feel abandoned and like they dont know what to do with me , telling me i need more than 20 sessions of counselling but then refusing to treat me with counselling
psych said its clear you need to address the stuff inside you or it will damage you.

im scared im gona give up

er im already damaged and then he says well i later will put you forward for counselling
me- what the fvck are you saying youve just told me im not suitable for one to one counselling and then you say you will later put me forward for counselling

hello- just shove me in the corner and let me die im tired of fighting this
he doesnt care why should i bother anymore

my dr is shocked that im not getting anywhere but theres little she can do
until she speaks with psychiatrist, she aknowledges i need help

meanwhile i have to wait

im really tired of this and im tired of fighting everything, my fvcking ex wife has screwed with my head over the phonecall

i wish i was.................dead




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I don't wish you were dead. I am pleased your here, even if at the moment you aren't. I just wish things were a bit easier for you.

Your psychiatrist sounds completely ****, sorry but he does. Is there noway you could get another psych? Please hang on. Could you contact some of the charity counselling groups and see someone from there as an inbetween sort of thing? You should be able to find out some stuff about them from the internet and the waiting lists are not usually too long. I have a couple of friends who have used different ones in different areas and been seen in a week or so. I know it is not ideal but at least it may be something to help you whilst other things are being sorted?

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Old 01-06-2008, 12:41 AM   #116
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My brother,

Sorry it's taken me so long to find this, I really am. I wish I'd found it sooner.

I'm really sorry about the psychs Dave they really are useless, fancy telling you you have symptoms of PTSD and yet telling you basically to f. off when you ask for treatment. I mean what's the point? Can you imagine me at work, in a first aid capacity?

Me: Derek, (random name) you're in thermal shock and have serious connotations related to cardiac function.

Derek: (after long pause)... so... what're we gonna do about it?

Me: Do about what?

Derek: "thermal shock and serious connotations related to cardiac function."

Me: Don't worry, you're not a first aider, it'll be fine.... honest....

Seriously, just like that. Jeez. *hugs* for you anyway dave. I hope you're around on MSN a little more so's we can keep in better touch, OK?



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I am also very glad you're not dead, Love.
We would be lessened without you.
I don't really know what else to say, except you are much stronger than the people that hurt you. You are fighting to get over them, they are still the tiny, crappy users who thought they could beat you. It's obvious they haven't, you are here after all, attempting to fight through it, and they are still wallowing in their own crap.

We care about you a lot, Dave, I care about you a lot. Please continue to fight.

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Old 06-06-2008, 07:52 PM   #118
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Becca,
I wanted to say im sorry its taken me so long to get back to you and everyone else. Its really hard right now i just dont know what im doing anymore.

Thank you Becca so much for wishing me well thats very kind of you and it means a great deal to me that you care. Im doing my best and its hard.

Your wishes comfort me thanks
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Emma,
Hugs you thank you so much for saying you wish i wasnt dead and your pleased im still here.its really good of you to wish things were easier for me thanks.

Thanks for saying u feel my psychiatrist is completly **** you brought a smile to me, thanks for that, hmm this is my third psychiatrist and i dont know if i can ask for another, i feel like they think im a trouble maker already ,when all ive done is stand up for myself, god its so hard to be strong and stand up for yourself.

when i was refered to the psychological therapies service (who are in secondary care ) apparently i cant be in secondary care which is community mental health team and want to see a psychologist whos in primary care. It was because i had 2 community mental health nurses who started off ok but both screwed my head up and because i stood up for myself and wanted to see a psychologist.

They discharged me from community mental health team there and then. I was left alone on a rediculous waiting list. The only person i could see was this consultant psychiatrist, when i eventually got an appointment whose assed me and says -

god i dont understand this

he said in his letter thats gone to the community mental health team and my dr " My impression is he hopes for a relationship, perhaps with a therapist, that will provide the answers and i think individual dynamic therapy would emphasise this and produce no change"

what the hell is that i have never seen the therapist, counsellor, nurse as a rescuer and been obsessed about it??? I just want someone to help me enough to live.

I can try some local services thanks for suggesting it i just dont have the energy ive faought this long to recieve the help i need and im getting close to giving in.

then the psych says after that, " the other posability for david is cognitive behaviour therapy"

me - OMG WTF hell thats what ive been asking for all along and no one listened, how can he suggest this as its a one to one, he said i shouldnt have 1 to 1

im getting confused and sick of the different things.

i will keep fighting i just dont know how long i can keep fighting

thank you so much for everything youve said it means a great deal to me
Emma

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Hey my Brother, hugs you bud,
Please dont say sorry youve no need mate
please forgive me for not saying more to you, you have enough on your plate and i wanted to be there for you bro.

Thanks man for saying your sorry for the way the psychs treated me, they are useless bro, im sure there not all useless, but finding a good one is preety hard. What a load of crap your right bro it is in telling me i have
symptoms of PTSD but telling me to fvck off, when i ask for treatment.

He He you made me smile when you said imagine you in a first aid capacity at work hmm. i can see what you said bro thanks for understanding.

Thank you bro for the hugs, they help, hugs you back mate.

i will try and be around msn bro i just want to thank you mate for a great time on msn where we chilled out together and played a couple of games.

You mean a hell of a lot to me bro and im here for you mate to so dont u forget that u can come to me to i will catch you on msn mate.

i will look over your updates of how you are bud and leave some caring words for my bro

Hugs

Dave




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