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Old 28-09-2007, 07:50 AM   #81
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It's the 2nd anniversary of my mates suicide in a couple of days Chels, so I know how you're feeling.

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On a related topic, why is it that suicide is acceptable to those around us if we are losing the battle with a physical illness that will claim our lives, but if it is mental or emotional pain, it is suddenly not acceptable. I guess I could always pray for cancer then it would not be suicide, but the same means could be reached. By the way our loss would still cause the same pain, but suddenly ur family would be relieved of any guilt.
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Old 28-09-2007, 08:40 AM   #82
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Choice.
Choice? Who chooses to suffer from depression or any other number of mental illnesses any more than they choose to have diabetes or a heart defect?

Life is a choice, death is a choice, but who, other than the one who it directly affects has the right to make that choice no matter what the illness.



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Old 29-09-2007, 09:00 AM   #83
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Choice? Who chooses to suffer from depression or any other number of mental illnesses any more than they choose to have diabetes or a heart defect?
No. Choice to turn your back on the people who care about you, to turn around and basically hurt every single person you've ever met, was actually what I was reffering to. I know nobody choses physical illnesses any more than they do mental illnesses, and I believe both are real and severe, but the reason death is not accepted by someone with severe depression is because they have chosen to take their own life. I was simply addressing the question you asked of "Why" it wasn't acceptable; because ultimately it is choice and to take one's own life is something a lot of people struggle to fully forgive of family members or friends.

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Old 29-09-2007, 07:11 PM   #84
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:26 AM   #85
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No. Choice to turn your back on the people who care about you, to turn around and basically hurt every single person you've ever met,
I do not see it as turning one's back on loved ones, as much as I see it as the ultimate acceptance of knowing one's own needs, desire, or whatever and going after it.

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ultimately it is choice and to take one's own life is something a lot of people struggle to fully forgive of family members or friends.
Their understanding and forgiveness should not be our first concern. "To thy own self be true". Depending on your beliefs, the only forgiveness a person who commits suicide should be worried about is their higher power's. IMO, it is the same forgiveness you would seek if a terminally ill patient terminated their life prematurely after all who knows what plans they had for the person's last days.

I understand your point of veiw however. It is a very viable view, I just happen to disagree with it.



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Old 10-10-2007, 06:03 PM   #86
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Ok trying to type though these tears....that hit me really really hard, thank you so much for posting this i really needed it more then anyone knew..thank you



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Old 10-12-2007, 06:59 AM   #87
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:30 AM   #88
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*bursts into tears*



'Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you.'

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Old 10-12-2007, 09:00 AM   #89
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:24 PM   #90
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^thanks hun, that means so much right now you have no idea.



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Old 10-12-2007, 08:03 PM   #91
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I cannot express my thanks for this. I am at a really low point right now, perhaps my lowest ever. I am really glad I stumbled upon this at the exact time when i did. it's making me hang in a little longer.....you have no idea how this has affected me. thanks.

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Old 10-12-2007, 08:52 PM   #92
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as usual aimee your posts are thought provoking and inspiring,
and as usual help so much
i can relate to so much of what you said after everything that happened a few months ago (and thanks again for being there)

ive missed you sooo much this past few months, i really have
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:14 PM   #93
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Don't mean to bring a downer on the amazing thread, but what if I've become so unbelievably selfish that I don't care how anybody else is affected...hmm...




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Old 11-12-2007, 11:54 PM   #94
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you should care what a certain someone thinks.



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Old 12-12-2007, 12:19 AM   #96
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This just hit me like a slap in the face. But then I wouldn't have to worry about that if I was dead. (sorry, I'm selfish sometimes)
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:25 AM   #97
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Bleh. I've read it during the most terrible time of my life, and only thought it was another reason to do so. Some people can only get a point through violence, especially if it's violence against someone they are supposed to love, but either don't love or do so on emotional closet. Guilt works good too, so a combo of it against myself would get my message across. But then again, I didn't have the means...

TL;DR: The text wasn't helpful for me, but it's good for people who still didn't find out that people will miss them.


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Old 09-01-2008, 03:09 AM   #98
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:20 AM   #100
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that was beautiful and gave me chills and made me cry. It goes through all the reasons that I have right now not to take my own life, even at the times when it seems like the best answer for ME, it will never be the best answer for those I love.
A girl at my school committed suicide 2 years ago and it affected EVERYBODY. But it affected my best friend the most...she had been planning her own suicide for the next day and seeing how everyone responded saved her life. I never thought that 2 years later that would be saving MY life.
I hope this saves lives too.

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