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Old 10-05-2014, 05:02 PM   #821
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Thanks.

Just talked to staff and let slip some abuse stuff I've never told anyone. Bit freaked that everyone will find out now. Not much I can so about it now though. Maybe it was a good thing I told someone. Feeling very fragile and shakey.



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Old 10-05-2014, 05:08 PM   #822
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Hey honey,

Well done for going to talk to staff, that's a positive thing to do.

Try not to dwell too much on what you let slip. It might be positive that you've opened up, but I'm sure it won't cause anything negative.

Can you try to do something nice to make you relax a little?

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Old 10-05-2014, 05:11 PM   #823
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Well done for talking to staff!

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Old 10-05-2014, 05:53 PM   #824
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Had a bit of a messy afternoon. Thought I had unescorted but was only on the grounds not outside. I did something stupid which freaked me out so I passed out. Paramedics came and I was hysterically. They were restraining me, not entirely sure why think I was saying I could walk back to the ward but they said no. I was really upset and getting flashbacks and the paramedic was hurting me the way he held me which made it worse. Got dragged back to the ward and got a lecture. Wanting to self discharge but I'm on section still. Feeling very under threat from everyone. Paranoid. Managed some dinner though and haven't thrown it up.



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Old 11-05-2014, 07:55 PM   #825
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Hi Katie,

It sounds like things have been intense this afternoon. It can be hard when there's been confusion about these kinds of things. Did you explain the misunderstanding to the people on the ward?

I'm sorry to hear the paramedics were so tough on you and hurt you. How are you feeling now?

Can you do something relaxing or soothing tonight to try to calm yourself down?

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Old 11-05-2014, 08:10 PM   #826
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Thanks for replying.

I explained to them but I don't think they believed me. I've been trying to relax and distract all day; watching Harry potter, talking to staff, talking to friends, talking to mum, going for cigs, listening to music, taking prn etc erc and I'm still really agitated and getting strong thoughts to cut or ligature. But I want to be off section tomorrow so I can at least go to the shop on my own and plan for discharge. Half nervous they are going to kick me out half nervous they're gona keep me here. Lol. Don't know what I want or need. I'm trying to stay stable but it's exhausting.



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Old 11-05-2014, 08:24 PM   #827
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Why are you scared they'll discharge you?



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Old 11-05-2014, 08:26 PM   #828
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Cos I don't know if I'm ready?



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Old 11-05-2014, 08:27 PM   #829
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Not to sound harsh, but if you're still self harming in hospital and needing stitches and you might ligature what's the difference if you're there or not?



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Old 11-05-2014, 08:31 PM   #830
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Because things could be a hell of a lot worse at home. And I am working with the staff.


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Old 11-05-2014, 08:45 PM   #831
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I suppose it's worth thinking about what you do find helpful in hospital; what it is that staff can offer to help, because from the other side of the screen it sounds like it isn't helping much, and in fact might be making things worse in regards to self harm.

For example - what can the staff do the avoid you self harming?



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Old 11-05-2014, 08:49 PM   #832
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They can take stuff away from me, which nobody is keen on doing, they can talk things through with me helping me plan out my time and just distract through talking and venting. They can give me meds which help. They can just generally be there for support.

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Old 11-05-2014, 08:50 PM   #833
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It sounds like you want someone to look after you and to take the choices away from you - so that self harm isn't a choice, like by taking objects away.



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Old 11-05-2014, 08:51 PM   #834
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But u have support workers at home that can do most of that

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Are they helping you with coping strategies?
It's all very well taking things away from you after you self harm, but that's not real life.
I get that it's easier for others to take responsibility, but you have the supported housing that can do pretty much the same.



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I'm confused as to why others are encouraging Katie to think being inpatient is a bad thing? Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick, but I think you need to be somewhere where others can keep you safe, or safer than you would be at home.



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Hey lovely,

I can understand the ambivalence about staying and leaving. Have you felt like being there has made a difference to your SH behaviours?

Perhaps it'd help to come up with a pros and cons list of being there to try to make things a little clearer in your head?

It's really good you're working with staff :) well done! Keep trying <3

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It's not a bad thing. But just saying it's far more helpful to learn coping strategies rather than getting the staff to just take stuff away.

May sound harsh, but it's reality. Frequent hospital admissions do not help in some situations as it just becomes another coping strategy thing.



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Old 11-05-2014, 08:56 PM   #839
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It sounds like you want someone to look after you and to take the choices away from you - so that self harm isn't a choice, like by taking objects away.
Where did you get that from? I don't want the responsibility taken away hence when I said that 'nobody is keen on doing that' I was including myself in that.

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But u have support workers at home that can do most of that
Support workers can't give meds.

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Are they helping you with coping strategies?
It's all very well taking things away from you after you self harm, but that's not real life.
I get that it's easier for others to take responsibility, but you have the supported housing that can do pretty much the same.
Yes they are helping with grounding. They're not taking my stuff away from me. I know hospital is not real life.

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I'm confused as to why others are encouraging Katie to think being inpatient is a bad thing? Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick, but I think you need to be somewhere where others can keep you safe, or safer than you would be at home.
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Sorry - you said you wanted staff to take the tools away, so it sounds like you wanted them to take the option to self harm away? Sometimes its easier when we don't have a choice - when someone else makes that choice for us.



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