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Old 26-06-2013, 07:40 PM   #61
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There's actually quite a few adult inpatient ED documentaries out there on YouTube [mainly US based].
I can't link them here for obvious reasons, but I found it useful [being middle aged with an ED].

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Old 26-06-2013, 08:54 PM   #62
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This I was treated appallingly in CAMHS wasn't taken seriously until adult services and I'm listened to now and respected as a person there was a lot of patronising, condescending and snide remarks in CAMHS I don't get that with adult services. (But I also know I'm very lucky and that mh services for adults can be awful too.)
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I agree there can be less media coverage/recognition for adults but I think it is also important to remember that adolescents and children can also get overlooked in services as people can assume they are just going through a 'phase' they will 'grow out of' and being patronised in that way. Personally I have been far more listened to since I was an adult (depending on area I grant you) than when I was younger and in the CAMHS system and adolescent unit.
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Old 28-06-2013, 01:40 AM   #63
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What happened to episode 2? Was it not supposed to be on tonight?

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Old 28-06-2013, 01:42 AM   #64
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Just found it. It's Monday.

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Old 28-06-2013, 01:45 AM   #65
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Nope, Monday. There's a repeat of episode 1 on at the moment.



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Old 28-06-2013, 09:15 AM   #66
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I finally watched Episode 1 last night, and I thought it was really, really well done. I did raise similar concerns regarding the well being of these young people, and whether it's right to film them in such a fragile state of mind. But as someone has already mentioned it can be taken in more than one way. I guess they could just choose not to watch it in the future, at least not until they are well enough to take it all in. I was on BBC radio last year to discuss mental health in young people, and I was absolutely mortified that the presenter revealed to the World that I was on anti-depressants, because my mum then found out in the most awkward way ever. From that perspective, I can understand that fear of it now being out there even though I don't take them anymore. But I just choose to never go back and listen to the recording, and that's what's best for me.

I appreciate a TV documentary is slightly different though. But nonetheless. This is very insightful, especially for someone who has experienced quite a lot in the mental health field but never hospital. I'm glad they decided to make it and I look forward to the next episode.



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Old 28-06-2013, 12:13 PM   #67
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I would guess that they would have to have been cleared by a psych saying they had capacity to consent to filming?



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Old 28-06-2013, 12:27 PM   #68
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It would probably have been the parents that gave consent to filming, it normally is for under 18s

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Old 28-06-2013, 08:55 PM   #69
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I found it very triggering, but not in a straightforward way.
It was the huge difference in the way the patients were treated, the sort of activities and support they were offered, etc, compared to adult services.

If they'd made a documentary about my experiences of the system, it'd involve a lot more police/cells, vicious comments from MH staff and neglect... it'd have to be a Panorama-style expose!

Seriously though, it broke me up inside, especially the girl who tried to commit suicide... it was like me at that age, but I was so scared of my parents I kept everything hidden (and got yelled at for the stuff I couldn't hide) until I could leave home at 18, and then broke down when I was too old to get sympathy or help.
Sorry, not trying to derail the thread, just nowhere to turn and no-one to talk to about the feelings this has stirred up... I already struggle with the aftermath of events of my early adult life... intrusive memories... a lot happened that shouldn't have if MH people had done their jobs.



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Old 28-06-2013, 09:42 PM   #70
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Glad they're building a new unit, I thought that one looked terribly depressing. The staff seemed nice. I didn't spend long in a CAMHS unit but remember it being horrible, the staff where I was didn't seem very understanding at all, generally.

Didn't find it too triggering, but probably won't watch next week's as I think I will find it more upsetting.

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Old 28-06-2013, 10:07 PM   #71
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It depends on the age in medical system a person is seemed adult at sixteen



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Old 28-06-2013, 11:16 PM   #72
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Glad they're building a new unit, I thought that one looked terribly depressing.
I thought similar although I've seen/been in a lot worse as an adult. The teen unit I was in though, the building was fantastic, felt more like a home than a unit, although the stairs caused staff some problems at times ;-p



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Old 28-06-2013, 11:22 PM   #73
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I've been in a lot of different units and as a whole, I found the adult ones to be better. Although adolescent was more fun because everyone is willing to play up (not the point of hospital, I know!)

I agree that adult acute wards are mostly awful, but the ones where you're staying for years rather than months are much better.
Not that I recommend being in hospital for years though :p



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Old 28-06-2013, 11:25 PM   #74
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I thought similar although I've seen/been in a lot worse as an adult. The teen unit I was in though, the building was fantastic, felt more like a home than a unit, although the stairs caused staff some problems at times ;-p
I think they should be more like homes than horrible units, that one looked a bit like a prison! When I was in residential the building was really nice. We were an untidy bunch but the atmosphere was much more welcoming, friendly and airy.

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Old 29-06-2013, 09:22 AM   #75
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The one closest to me won awards for design, horseshoe sort of shaped but the sound echoed around the whole ward. Very high ceilings and massive windows and the courtyard area with 2inches of fag ends on the floor . In my view it was too open plan especially after doing several circuits every hour.

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Old 29-06-2013, 04:21 PM   #76
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Good to know I wasn't the only one that found it triggering.
This is exactly how I felt reading this. It knocked me for six, I didn't think it was going to affect me like that.



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Old 29-06-2013, 10:17 PM   #77
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My favourite unit was the self harm unit in the bethlem royal hospital which has now moved. It was set inside a 6 bedroomed house, and each patient had their own room. The lounge had a tropical fish tank in and it was so comfy. Nothing like the usual hospital ward.



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Old 30-06-2013, 11:02 PM   #78
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I can't wait to watch this x



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Old 01-07-2013, 08:09 AM   #79
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I finally found a copy to watch, interesting watch.



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Old 01-07-2013, 11:31 AM   #80
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I will be watching tonight's episode

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