A full stop and basic punctuation changes the whole paragraph; without it, two sentences that read the same can have two completely and utterly different meanings.
I think that on a site that is based solely on written communication, basic punctuation is somewhat of a necessity. And it's certainly not trivial, it's - if we're going down the job front - a basic part of any workplace, for basic communication.
Edit: and with your last post, surely it's kinda important whether the sentence reads: "they are", "their" or "there", as each of those has different meanings too. People shouldn't have to translate a post to reply to it, that's just basic laziness (for the most part) on the part of the poster.
If it's unreadable or doesn't make sense, the level of responses are going to go down. Level of responses go down, people get upset because their post isn't getting any replies. Put a full stop in, make it clear where one sentence ends and another begins, wow! It makes sense!
It's a basic necessity for any written communication.
support website or how to do correct grammar website?
srsly... when i am 'ill' my spelling goes out the window.. i spell head like haid... i cant help it.
why should the spelling or structure of a piece of writing on this website matter to the support they receive?
if its readable, then its fine by me.
i dont understand the rule about text speak..its not annoying to me, i read it in my head like a normal sentance.. if it says '2'.. i stil say 'to' in my head.
wtevs.
yeah, i havent read the whole thread.. i might just be repeating everyone else.. and what?
A full stop and basic punctuation changes the whole paragraph; without it, two sentences that read the same can have two completely and utterly different meanings.
I think that on a site that is based solely on written communication, basic punctuation is somewhat of a necessity. And it's certainly not trivial, it's - if we're going down the job front - a basic part of any workplace, for basic communication.
Edit: and with your last post, surely it's kinda important whether the sentence reads: "they are", "their" or "there", as each of those has different meanings too. People shouldn't have to translate a post to reply to it, that's just basic laziness (for the most part) on the part of the poster.
And those of us who struggle with it grammar and puncuation and spelling shouldn't get support because we can't see our mistakes?
hmm seems more like lets support those who are good at English and bulley those who are bad at it.
If this were a forum on the english language, or a writers forum, or even a journilists forum, grammar (yes I had to look at the thread title to see how to spell that) I would agree that SPAG was very important. However, it is none of those things. It's a support forum, for mental illness. I mean, if someone makes a post saying they want to kill themselves and misses out a few captial leters and full stops, I think that if that's the only problem you see, you're really missing the point.
As I have said before on all the other threads exactly the same as this one that has cropped up, having threads like this makes those who have problems with writing/spelling/punctuation very self concious; after all, what we write is basically the only way we 'see' other members. I know that this thread isn't directed at people who are dyslexic yada yada, but that's not the point, it still gets to us. It's like saying somethign along the lines of:
'Oh, everyone who dyes there hair ginger is stupid, I mean, who'd want ginger hair. Oh by the way don't worry if you're naturally ginger, we know you can't help it'
"I would be almighty in my own world of art, even if I had to paint my pictures with my wet tongue on the dusty floor of my cell." -Picasso
"No, painting is not done to decorate apartments. It is an instrument of war." - Picasso
'I have scars becuase I have a past; but they, like my past, do not define my future'
Does it honestly hurt to use capital letters and full stops?
I understand that dyslexia can limit the typer's ability to spell, but c'mon, it's not that hard to put a full stop at the end of a sentence, and begin a sentence with a capital letter.
Yeah, this'll probably get moved soon, but, whatever, I needed to get it off my chest.
And those of us who struggle with it grammar and puncuation and spelling shouldn't get support because we can't see our mistakes?
hmm seems more like lets support those who are good at English and bulley those who are bad at it.
Duff,
I don't think that's what was meant at all and it's certainly not my opinion. Though I do think posters have the responsibility to try and make their posts readable. That's not meaning all rules of grammar and correct spelling must be used, just that people wanting support should think about if their post communicates to people what they want it to.
It's kind of like if someone joins this website but English isn't their first language, no one is going to deny them support for that, but if they posted in Japanese it'd be utterly pointless as no one could understand it. If they used English to the best of their ability and used the odd Japanese word when they didn't know the English one, then I am sure people would be more than willing to try and understand and support them.
I don't really see how us saying that we prefer it when people use proper sentence structure is classed as bullying, to be honest. As Daemon said, with a story that made me laugh, it can really change the meaning of a sentence, which can in turn change the meaning of a post. Everyone makes mistakes - I know I do. Even quickly reading it through can sometimes mean I miss something out. We're not expecting perfection, but people making what they're saying legible. A whole block of text with shortened (2 instead of to etc) words is incredibly difficult to read. It's bound to put people off reading them. I try to read it anyway, but it does take twice as long with the translating I have to do in my head.
And those of us who struggle with it grammar and puncuation and spelling shouldn't get support because we can't see our mistakes?
hmm seems more like lets support those who are good at English and bulley those who are bad at it.
I'm basically just reiterating what Heidi wrote, but that wasn't the intention of my post at all, and I don't think I ever said that anybody shouldn't get support based on their grammar? So please, don't put words in my mouth.
Saying that, for a post to read as you wanted to express it, sometimes things like punctuation can make such a difference; I like Daemon.'s post for explaining that. If people are going to post and do want replies, it just makes sense for them to try to make it readable. Obviously it's not possible for everybody, and yeah, for some people it is a real problem rather than just laziness - but you are expressing yourself purely in written English, and with the way that sentences can change so simply by putting a full stop in a different place or missing out a comma, it simply makes sense when expressing yourself to do all you can to make it clear what your intention is, surely?
Ok Jo i will tip my hat and say sorry as i misread the bit about translating threads and being lazy.
I know for me even if i read back what i post 100 times i wouldn't pick up on what i have misspelt (sp?) or a couple of dots in the wrong place it's not me being lazy it's me struggling with words like some people are number blind.
I just don't get why the topic is dragged up all the time on a site where people already hate themselfs are made to feel worse because they are dyslexic. Which for me makes me feel even worse that people are picking up on it and saying that we shouldn't be lazy or at least try. I do try as i'm sure others do but do we need constant reminders of our failings?
kind of like lets kick a man when he's down.
As for what Andy said i have heard it before and it is good but it doesn't cure the problem as i will just make the same mistake again and again but then i can't see it when i read over it. Now if that classes as lazy then so be it.
Duff, just for the record, i can read what you write fine. *cuddles*
I do however sturggle to read what i write half the time lol j/k
Paragraphs and sentences are all i think you need on a website such as this.
Yes, because the whole point of this thread is obviously to pick on people who are dyslexic, even after the first post stated otherwise.
This post puts what I am trying to say a lot more eloquently;
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Originally Posted by ScreamSongsOfGlory
I don't really see how us saying that we prefer it when people use proper sentence structure is classed as bullying, to be honest. As Daemon said, with a story that made me laugh, it can really change the meaning of a sentence, which can in turn change the meaning of a post. Everyone makes mistakes - I know I do. Even quickly reading it through can sometimes mean I miss something out. We're not expecting perfection, but people making what they're saying legible. A whole block of text with shortened (2 instead of to etc) words is incredibly difficult to read. It's bound to put people off reading them. I try to read it anyway, but it does take twice as long with the translating I have to do in my head.
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