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Old 28-08-2008, 07:39 PM   #41
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Oh god, I remember the jabs in the bum in front of everyone
that was really ****ing horrible and humiliating.

I got jabbed in front of 6 male staff (some of whoom were holding me down) and 1 male doctor (who athorised the IM)
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Old 28-08-2008, 07:56 PM   #42
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Oh god, I remember the jabs in the bum in front of everyone
that was really ****ing horrible and humiliating.

I got jabbed in front of 6 male staff (some of whoom were holding me down) and 1 male doctor (who athorised the IM)
horrible.
I was in a very similar situation. I don't know why they can't use an arm or a leg. "IM" means "intramuscular", so in theory they should be able to inject it into any skeletal muscle. So WHY do they have to use the muscle in the bum?
I had not only the Shamrock unit staff (whom I knew quite well) holding me down during one of the restraints, but also complete strangers from the emergency team. I had my knickers pulled down in front of a load of strangers.
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Old 28-08-2008, 07:57 PM   #43
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The private psych hosp I was in was more strict than the NHS ward, lol.
Actually you have a point there.



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Old 28-08-2008, 08:37 PM   #44
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They use the bum, I'm guessing here, because it's the easiest, most accessible place to correctly administer an injection whilst the patient is being restrained!



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Old 28-08-2008, 08:51 PM   #45
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They use the bum, I'm guessing here, because it's the easiest, most accessible place to correctly administer an injection whilst the patient is being restrained!
You have an excellent point there. It is a shame though because it is rather humiliating as has already been mentioned previously.
By the end of the first two weeks in hospital I looked like I had chicken pox because they gave me so many injections. I do wonder about what effect it had on my body.
Those injections do hurt quite a bit too.



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Old 28-08-2008, 09:30 PM   #46
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sometimes i think i can't cope in the real world. hospital was really limiting about what i could do, what i could have, where i could go, etc; but at least it was simple. i didn't have to think and plan for myself (eg. not being allowed a change of clothes meant not spending ages trying on every top i own to decide which looks right, feels right and is weather and situaltion apropriate)

i visited a friend on the ward i was on yesterday tho; and i was so glad to be walking out afterwards.

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Old 28-08-2008, 09:39 PM   #47
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Those injections do hurt quite a bit too.

Funnily enough I never felt mine. I didn't even know that I'd been injected on two occasions because I didn't feel the needle go in at all.
I still felt like a zombie a few minutes later though

I hated the IMs with a passion and whenever the nurse on duty said the words IM when I was being restrained it just made me struggle even more
if that makes any sense. It just made me panic and made me worse
so it was quite silly for her to bring up the IM when I would have calmed down without one...if that makes any sense

I used to get a lot of bruises from being restrained, and sometimes I got restrained for totally silly reasons.
Once I was being kept prisoner in a room and when I tried to leave to get my glasses from my bedroom a good 7 or 8 grown men tackled me and restrained me, I had recent SI on my arm and while restraining me they grabbed my arms and twisted them behind my back, in the process opening up cuts that had been stitched, it was horrible

I'm rambling about my bad experiences here, please excuse me I'm quite bitter lol



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Old 28-08-2008, 09:40 PM   #48
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I was on 1:1 obs for seven months. At first I really liked it, it was such a relief being in a safe place with people looking after me. But after a while I got really sick of it. I escaped once, but my friend took me back. When I left I really missed it.

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Old 28-08-2008, 09:47 PM   #49
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I was on 1:1 obs for seven months. At first I really liked it, it was such a relief being in a safe place with people looking after me. But after a while I got really sick of it.
I was on 1:1 obs for a total of one month, and that was bad enough
I cannot imagine how annoying it would be to be on 1:1 for 7 months
I hated having to go the loo or get a shower in front of a stranger, it was hell, but I know what you mean about it being comforting at first, at first it does feel good to have someone there with you all the time but after a while it's just horrible...



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Old 28-08-2008, 10:04 PM   #50
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I left hospital today, I miss it already.

I never got injected; I only got threatened with it once when I kicked off really badly, got placed on 2:1 and restrained temporarily and was refusing to take it orally but that was scary enough. They had it drawn up and everything. That was all it took to make me have it even though I knew it would knock me out, the thought of three staff members seeing my bum = ARGH

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Old 28-08-2008, 10:10 PM   #51
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Funnily enough I never felt mine. I didn't even know that I'd been injected on two occasions because I didn't feel the needle go in at all.
I still felt like a zombie a few minutes later though

I hated the IMs with a passion and whenever the nurse on duty said the words IM when I was being restrained it just made me struggle even more
if that makes any sense. It just made me panic and made me worse
so it was quite silly for her to bring up the IM when I would have calmed down without one...if that makes any sense

I used to get a lot of bruises from being restrained, and sometimes I got restrained for totally silly reasons.
Once I was being kept prisoner in a room and when I tried to leave to get my glasses from my bedroom a good 7 or 8 grown men tackled me and restrained me, I had recent SI on my arm and while restraining me they grabbed my arms and twisted them behind my back, in the process opening up cuts that had been stitched, it was horrible

I'm rambling about my bad experiences here, please excuse me I'm quite bitter lol
I'm sorry that you had to go through that. Sometimes I wonder if there's a better way to manage such situations.
I got many bruises from restraints, but I was usually restrained because I attacked a nurse or because I gave myself a massive nosebleed.
Don't worry about rambling on, I am bitter too, so I understand how you feel.
I had my arms twisted around my back before - I don't think that is a very helpful thing to do at all. Mental Health Act Code of Practise says that pain should never be used as a form of restraint except when absolutely necessary to protect staff.




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Old 28-08-2008, 10:44 PM   #52
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Steel: can you complain about what happened when you were forcibly injected in your bum in front of male nurses? I probably would if it happened to me.



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Old 29-08-2008, 12:21 PM   #53
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had my arms twisted around my back before - I don't think that is a very helpful thing to do at all. Mental Health Act Code of Practise says that pain should never be used as a form of restraint except when absolutely necessary to protect staff


god, they *always* used pain as a form of restraint on me
and I never attacked any staff at all
I was just always trying to hurt myself, and everytime I stepped a toe out of line they all jumped on me, twisting my arms around my back

I remember I was crying one time I was in so much pain and they actually laughed at me for crying
And another time I got my face pushed into a matress until I couldn't breath.

Hmm I'm getting angry now I remember it



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Old 29-08-2008, 01:37 PM   #54
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I know a lot of people have had bad experiences with being restrained and injected, but perhaps try to see it from the point of view that in the long run it helps and can actually save your life. I've seen people get restrained because they were trying to kill themselves. If the nurses ignored that patient, they would have died. And in years to come when that patient is recovered, they'll be grateful they were stopped.



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Old 29-08-2008, 05:37 PM   #55
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I know a lot of people have had bad experiences with being restrained and injected, but perhaps try to see it from the point of view that in the long run it helps and can actually save your life. I've seen people get restrained because they were trying to kill themselves. If the nurses ignored that patient, they would have died. And in years to come when that patient is recovered, they'll be grateful they were stopped.
hmm, you do have a point there
I'm just rambling about my bad experiences but there are times that I'm glad (looking back) that they restrained me

For example, I was trying to drown myself in the bath one time
Nearly succeeded too, but I got pulled out at the last second and restrained, but for that I'm very grateful, because they saved my life on that occasion

So yeah it's not all bad *nods*



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Old 29-08-2008, 07:15 PM   #56
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I have great repsect for the nurses on psych wards, I really could not do that job at all. Your day is filled with people who have lost all hope and you have to literally keep them alive and try to fill them with hope again.



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Old 30-08-2008, 12:18 PM   #57
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Steel: can you complain about what happened when you were forcibly injected in your bum in front of male nurses? I probably would if it happened to me.
I don't think there are grounds for complaint sadly enough. They will probably have an excuse like "we were understaffed".

To be honest I don't want to complain against those nurses because overall, they really helped me get better and most of them were really nice to me most of the time.



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god, they *always* used pain as a form of restraint on me
and I never attacked any staff at all
I was just always trying to hurt myself, and everytime I stepped a toe out of line they all jumped on me, twisting my arms around my back

I remember I was crying one time I was in so much pain and they actually laughed at me for crying
And another time I got my face pushed into a matress until I couldn't breath.

Hmm I'm getting angry now I remember it
That's sick of them.
I know how you feel - I nearly had my shoulder dislocated on several occasions.
And I agree, when they throw you down on that bloody mattress, its f*cking impossible to breathe!

When I was put under section 136 the policemen carried me into the room in such a way that the handcuffs cut the skin on my wrists. It was bloody painful and I was screaming more in pain than in actual fear.



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Old 30-08-2008, 12:22 PM   #59
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Control freak - I agree with you. I know that if I hadn't been restrained I would have broken my nose or a nurse would have been badly bruised due to my attacks on the staff.

I do respect the nurses for doing their job, and, when I wasn't being restrained and sedated, the nurses would talk to me and comfort me, and give me hope to get better.

I couldn't have got out of hospital without the nurses. I owe a lot to them.



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I couldn't have got out of hospital without the nurses. I owe a lot to them.
I couldn't agree more with you. My therapy hasn't done much for me at all in the past 7 months I've been having it, but during the 6 months of being in hospital, what's helping me the most is definitely the nursing staff. I admire them so much and I literally owe them my life on many occasions.

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