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Old 04-05-2008, 01:17 PM   #41
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I know people who have adapted their views, especially as they have got older.

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Old 04-05-2008, 01:19 PM   #42
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i'm 'religious' (christian) and i've questioned my beliefs, even changed them some as i've gotten older and decided for myself what i thought made sense and was true. the reason that i can really know what i believe and why i believe it is because i've questioned it, all of it, and i know why and what i believe. i don't just blindly believe what my parents taught me, i have reasons of my own.

just a thought about the whole religion/science thing... i think these are two separate issues. i believe in evolution, and i also believe in God, and believe that he created everything. we can [attempt to] explain how he did it with science, but the beginnings of the universe have nothing to do with the existance of God, if you're just talking about the sequence of things and what technically happened. religion answers who did it. i'm a very scientific/logical person, but i still believe in God. i don't see why these two issues are debated as if they contradict each other. in my opinion, they don't.


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Old 04-05-2008, 01:49 PM   #43
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Haven't read all the thread.

"once it was fact that 'god made man'"
Because advances in technology have allowed us to learn more and evolve our theories. Once it was "fact" that all gay men had aids, and that was proved wrong.

As for this religion doesn't attack Science or only recently, I'll say three words:
Scopes Monkey Trial

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Old 04-05-2008, 02:53 PM   #44
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sorry haven't got time to read thread so I apologize if i post something of the topic or point,

I think its healthy to question, don't Buddhists question their own beliefs to find truth?

Id say I'm open on the subject because Ive come to the conclusion that for myself it doesn't matter how much i research into science/religion im still non the wiser of what the truth might be,
of course everyone has their own beliefs and opinions but i cant believe that anyone in existence knows the answer.
I believe the science about how we evolved but that doesn't really prove that A god doesn't exist.



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Old 04-05-2008, 07:56 PM   #45
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I'm a christian and have only been one for two years.

Two years ago i believed in evolution, it is taught in schools more as a fact than a theory. Obviously the idea of creation was somewhat of a challenge however when looking at the complextities of all creatures the likelyhood of one species transforming into another is so unlikely it is close to nothing. Charles Darwin himself once said that the for the eye to manifest through a serious of random events is impossible.. his original theory of survival of the fitest (which is valid and good theory) has been severely changed and distorted over the years.

The bible itself holds many scientific facts within here's a link which explores just a few of these
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml

There is a friend of mine who is a scientist and a christian, he has tried and tested the theory of evolution many times, more so than myself.. It is possible for religion and science to be combined.

There is book called Case For Creator by Lee Strobel, who before writting the book was an atheist and was really justtrying to disprove the existance of God. And another book, which is encredibly scientific and talks about quantum physics and all that, about how God fits in with the Big Bang theory called the Goldilocks Enigma (sorry i don't know the author).

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Old 15-07-2008, 01:17 PM   #46
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i hve to say i do believe there isa god. but i do not believe that we know the whole truth. i think the vatican do hold alot of interesting hidden facts that they do not want the world to know. thye picked to reveal information and change it to keep people happy and prevent the fall of the vatican/

i used to be a devout christian...i brought this up with the churh and was asked that i not talk like that and to leave....how christian is that??





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Old 15-07-2008, 08:23 PM   #47
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I havent a problem with people believing the whole religon thing - personally i dont, but i dont believe in god, which i have a right to have that belief. but my problem is that ive experienced a lot of people trying to shove the religon side down my throat. if i was to argue the science side, they have said well yours not real proof for that - but if i say wheres the proof of the religous side im being offensive - because in this day and age we cant question god and religon...
in school we werent taught science until seconday school... i never realised how that worked out until you meantioned about it there... thts pretty shameful that its being forced at us from a young age! people have a right to believe whatever but dont force it upon us or make us out to be a biggot for questioning it...

(sorry if that caused offense to anyone but im talking about specific people i know who are like that!)



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