Im a smoker but I have the courtesy to move out of the way of non smokers so people like you dont have to breath in my smoke. If we want to smoke, we will. End of. The gouvernment will never change that.
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It ends at my right to breath. Smoking doesn't just affect the smoker, it also affects everyone who then has to breath in their smoke.
They're already banned smoking in public places.
Having a nice little cigarette in my garden isn't affecting anyone but myself.
Passive smoking now begins and ends with homes. And No where else
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Not in the US they haven't. We're not allowed to smoke in public buildings, or with a certain distance from the doors, windows, or air intakes of buildings, but people can and do smoke outside in public areas. I can't walk to class without passing through a cloud of smoke at least once, and I can rarely walk on the sidewalk anywhere without having smoke blown in my face every few minutes. And I'm not even going to start about people who smoke in a crowded place where I can't even get away from them if I try (and really, I shouldn't have to constantly go out of my way to avoid having to breath large amounts of cigarette smoke even when it is theoretically possible to do so).
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I have the courtesy to move out of the way of non smokers so people like you dont have to breath in my smoke.
Well, you're definitely in the minority. At least where I live, the majority of people really don't seem to care at all that they're making other people breath that crap.
If people want to smoke in private, I could care less about it, but when there's a crowd of people smoking outside the building where I have class or someone walking in front of me leaving a trail of smoke where I'm trying to walk, it really pisses me off. And quite honestly, I don't care at all if that offends people, cause it's far more inconsiderate to make people breath toxic fumes for ones own pleasure than it is to tell people such behavior is bothersome.
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I'd just like to add, cannabis has screwed around with lots of my friend's heads.
I'm talking from personal experience.
Whatever the studies show etc I've seen the effects and it's not pretty.
i agree that i dont think it will work, raising the age didn't stop me (im 17) or a lot of other people smoking.
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Well, I'm British.
So, Me smoking doesn't directly affect any non smoker, unless they choose to stand with me while I'm smoking.
What about those who stand in doorways which you wish to go through?? Thats the sort of thing which really bugs me, like at hospitals. I understand that the person maybe going through stressful times, but such as me (who used to suffer from asthma) got affected badly by the smoke.
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I'd just like to add, cannabis has screwed around with lots of my friend's heads.
I'm talking from personal experience.
Whatever the studies show etc I've seen the effects and it's not pretty.
I've noticed a change in my friends who take cannabis, i don't kow how to explain it, but they're not 'messed up' but there is a difference in them. The drug problem in my school is really bad and spotting the druggies isn't exactly difficult.
What about those who stand in doorways which you wish to go through?? Thats the sort of thing which really bugs me, like at hospitals. I understand that the person maybe going through stressful times, but such as me (who used to suffer from asthma) got affected badly by the smoke.
Last time I checked, it's completely banned form hospitals- you can't just go outside, you have to go off site for a cig now. If that's any conselation.
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I've noticed a change in my friends who take cannabis, i don't kow how to explain it, but they're not 'messed up' but there is a difference in them. The drug problem in my school is really bad and spotting the druggies isn't exactly difficult.
I notice that when I smoke more weed my mood swings are much more stable. I don't get as manic, but the depression isn't so bad either. But it got to the point when I was smoking weed everyday and I turned into a zombie, and realised there wasn't much of a point. But apart from that, I can't say I've noticed a change in anyone else. But most people I know smoke like they drink- in moderation.
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For osmeone who takes anti-physchotics because of the effects of smoking marijuana then you need to get your facts right.
It is an extremely harmful substance and can lead to psychosis, months and years later, and I'm not just talking about paranoia.
When marijuana was put to a class c drug in the UK there was a 95% rise in child & adodolecent mental health cases.
Not to mention the drug is dabilitating to those that use on a constant basis.
I have to agree, it broke me in way's I'm still trying to figure out. I get really angry when people start saying its the cure for stuff, its a lie, marijuana is a deceiver. The Roman's knew about it, they burned the only natural variety out of Britain and they were hedonists so doesn't that say something?
Anyone who smokes it 'to help' knows they are lying to themselves deep down and will eventually have to confront it, I hope you find out sooner rather than later invisible girl, the longer your on it the larger the after effects.
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Last time I checked, it's completely banned form hospitals- you can't just go outside, you have to go off site for a cig now. If that's any conselation.
At my clostest hospital you still get people there, it should really be enforced more really. Or have smoking rooms away from everyone else; so that those who want to smoke can and those who don't do not suffer.
But i've known these people for a while, but they constantly seek stronger varieties and there has been a change in them. I struggle to put my finger on what it is about them though.
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I have to agree, it broke me in way's I'm still trying to figure out. I get really angry when people start saying its the cure for stuff, its a lie, marijuana is a deceiver. The Roman's knew about it, they burned the only natural variety out of Britain and they were hedonists so doesn't that say something?
Anyone who smokes it 'to help' knows they are lying to themselves deep down and will eventually have to confront it, I hope you find out sooner rather than later invisible girl, the longer your on it the larger the after effects.
No type of drug, illegal or legal, solves a problem. Be it anti-depressants or tabacco; they all just mask/cover up the symptoms. If anything, its a psychological comfort.
Lots of interesting posts but no-one's actually answered my question, which was just what would it take to make you stop smoking? Obviously best answered by those who are actually smokers!
For me it was the news that yet another person I knew had killed themselves unnecessarily and I therefore decided that rather than go on and on making excuses about not stopping yet, I would actually bloody well do it. And I had been an addicted smoker in my time - normally 12-15 a day but at one period when I was under extreme stress and working 22 hours a day for over 6 weeks I was up to 35 a day, purely as a crutch.
Now, not having smoked for over 20 years, I could walk into a smoky pub and it wouldn't worry me in the least. But outside, if I'm walking along a row of shops say, I find the smell of tobacco smoke from those who've sneaked out for a crafty fag to be extremely offensive, probably because the smoke contrasts so much with the outside air.
And a final word for all you smokers - you will stop sooner or later. It's just a question of whether it'll be voluntary! Oh, and Sod the Nanny State ...
Sorry Mr Tony sir, all the threads i post on normally end up completely distracted and eventually inadvertantly hijacked. Though, this is a good discussion and i'm unable to answer you question cos i have never been stupid enough to start smoking (no offence to you smokers -but it's an addictive mistake in my eyes, so i always stayed well clear) :D
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you will stop sooner or later. It's just a question of whether it'll be voluntary!
I kinda thought it was implied that when people talk about never stopping/being made to stop they mean until they die
I worked across the street from a cancer hospital the summer before last, and there were always people out there in a hospital gown, with an IV in their arm having a cigarette.
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No type of drug, illegal or legal, solves a problem. Be it anti-depressants or tabacco; they all just mask/cover up the symptoms. If anything, its a psychological comfort.
Actually, I would have to say that antibiotics often do an excellent job solving the problem of a bacterial infection.
I don't know for sure what anyone else means, but when I talk about the medical uses of marijuana, I'm talking about non-psychiatric uses. It's pretty well established that marijuana is a very effective anti-nausea agent for cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, and also to counteract loss of appetite for patients with AIDS and hepatitis. It also reduces intraocular pressure in glaucoma patients, and consequently slows degeneration of the ocular nerve that results from elevated intraocular pressure. Cannabis can also help to alleviate muscle spasms in multiple sclerosis, and can act as an analgesic for a variety of pain disorders, as well as an immunomodulator in autoimmune disorders.
Sorry Tony, I know this is off topic... I can't really comment on what would get me to stop smoking though as I've never smoked at all...
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So I know that this isn't really the point of this thread, but can someone clarify where smoking is and is not allowed in the UK? Cause there've been several references to it being banned entirely in public, but then also comments about people smoking in streets and doorways, and now Tony just said about smoking in pubs, so now I'm really confused...
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At my clostest hospital you still get people there, it should really be enforced more really. Or have smoking rooms away from everyone else; so that those who want to smoke can and those who don't do not suffer.
Serious?? Because the one I worked at (in Cambridge) and the A&E I recently visited (Hampshire/Surrey) both had no smoking on site at all. It was quite refreshing really.
As for what would make me stop smoking... well. I'm not a crazy smoker. I smoke when I'm stressed or when I drink- so mostly socially. So yeah- if there were no more alcohol and no more stress.. tbh I'll probably grow out of the social smoking and I'll probably learn to handle my stress better too. I find when I go home, I won't smoke cigarettes at all, not even really when I go out, it's mostly at uni.
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Doesn't work. When I went to Spain, the airport had designated smoking rooms, that even had special air vents to keep the air moving a certain way, like in a fume hood. The entire airport smelled disgusting. Our gate was right next to a smoking room, and if I'd been there without my parents I could well have missed my flight because waiting at the gate was so bad.
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Lots of interesting posts but no-one's actually answered my question, which was just what would it take to make you stop smoking?
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On the topic of passive smoking, I am a HIGHLY considerate smoker. If I am walking down the path, and someone is coming towards me, I always hold my ciggie in the hand furthest from them. I take great care not to smoke around non-smokers. So please dont just assume that all smokers are inconsiderate. That's kinda hurtful when I try so hard to be considerate to people. Not that anyone ever bloody appreciates it. Its not like any of the non-smokers ever THANK me for my consideration...
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