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Old 26-01-2012, 11:40 PM   #41
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I mean she'd jump up and down and get hyped up at really silly things. Or become frantic at trying to escape to 'pick the person up' or poke them.

My care plan was good. I was depressed when I came in and didn't speak at all, felt terrible being around people. But being offered inclusion I started to opt in rather than out and became a little more confident. :) Its sad but my admission was the first time in a very long time when I felt safe from people, like people were not trying to harm me, that good experience was the start of a growing faith in humanity; that there are at least some nice people out there.

Ear plugs sound really useful. Partner would have thrown hers around at the time but they did try and introduce some simple things when she got a bit better like colouring books and she could have the radio on quietly. I'm glad you met someone helpful for you. It makes a huge difference to have someone caring and kind when your so vulnerable and unwell.


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Old 26-01-2012, 11:49 PM   #42
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i have noticed this too. its very sad.

my shoulder was injured by a nurse about 3 years ago, still get problems now, they refused to take me to hospital, or even let me see a doctor, and it was very bad. but i was not really 'with it' enough to push for it, i just accepted it.

i have noticed some nurses doing it here. it makes me really angry
I had an infection whilst in hospital, and I kept telling the nurses that my wrist was painful but they wouldn't look at it or let me talk to a doctor. Eventually after two weeks I showed a peer support worker and she nagged the nurses to look at my wrist. The nurses then told me off for talking to the support working and 'making them look bad'.
When they finally did look at it, they took me to a&e where I just narrowly avoided needing a skin graft.



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Old 26-01-2012, 11:52 PM   #43
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Oh yeah, my partner broke her arm and for 2 days she was walking round [a different place] where they insisted she was making a fuss over nothing. Her mum ended up taking her to a and e for a cast!

Two weeks sounds terrible. I am so sorry to hear you had to endure that.

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Old 27-01-2012, 07:45 AM   #44
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I mean she'd jump up and down and get hyped up at really silly things. Or become frantic at trying to escape to 'pick the person up' or poke them.

My care plan was good. I was depressed when I came in and didn't speak at all, felt terrible being around people. But being offered inclusion I started to opt in rather than out and became a little more confident. :) Its sad but my admission was the first time in a very long time when I felt safe from people, like people were not trying to harm me, that good experience was the start of a growing faith in humanity; that there are at least some nice people out there.

Ear plugs sound really useful. Partner would have thrown hers around at the time but they did try and introduce some simple things when she got a bit better like colouring books and she could have the radio on quietly. I'm glad you met someone helpful for you. It makes a huge difference to have someone caring and kind when your so vulnerable and unwell.
Oh ok. Your partner sounds like she was very unwell, how is she doing nowadays? I'm glad that they found ways to help her.

Yes, having someone caring and kind is very, very helpful.

I had one nurse yell at me "you have the power to speak, so do so!" at me when I went non-verbal and I ended up running to my room. They followed me but luckily the good nurse found me and gave me pen and paper.

I'm glad your care plan helped. Do you have an advance directive? I hope that you don't end up in hospital again, but if you do I hope they help you like last tume.



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Old 27-01-2012, 01:09 PM   #45
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a nurse once told me i was going to hell because i said i felt suicidal.

needless to say, it didnt help my mood much.



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Old 27-01-2012, 01:47 PM   #46
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the pillow/cushion thing is because they're responsible for your physical health while you're in there and if anyone developed pressure sores as a result of sitting directly on the floor then there'd probably be hell to pay - and it could easily happen if someone's doing that for hours on end each day. it's easier to make it a rule for everyone (as there's no harm in it) rather than, for example, having to assess everyone's likelihood of developing problems from sitting on the floor, each day.

as for the other things i can't really comment but the worst one i found was not being able to have a drink (glass of water) when i wanted. they provided approx 200ml 6x a day (and you could get 2 extra drinks if dietician approved) but i think if you're thirsty and want a drink you should be allowed to have one, even if the only option is water. having said that - i made a big fuss about this in my head at the time but the benefits of being in somewhere getting help outweighed having to abide by rules you don't like. i actually wish i'd spoken to someone properly about the water thing (i said nothing).

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Old 27-01-2012, 06:43 PM   #47
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a nurse once told me i was going to hell because i said i felt suicidal.

needless to say, it didnt help my mood much.
Ugh, that nurse sounds horrible. I had a nurse tell me that suicide is illegal and that's why I was in a secure unit :/

I complained about that nurse and he was given a very good talking to.



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Old 27-01-2012, 06:54 PM   #48
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One of the wards I was in would only let me have three pens or pencils unsupervised. I could never figure this out. What can you do with four pens that you can't do with one/two/three?





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Old 27-01-2012, 07:20 PM   #49
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One of the wards I was in would only let me have three pens or pencils unsupervised. I could never figure this out. What can you do with four pens that you can't do with one/two/three?
Lol. That is odd. Perhaps it was an arbitrary number?



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Old 27-01-2012, 07:50 PM   #50
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the pillow/cushion thing is because they're responsible for your physical health while you're in there and if anyone developed pressure sores as a result of sitting directly on the floor then there'd probably be hell to pay - and it could easily happen if someone's doing that for hours on end each day. it's easier to make it a rule for everyone (as there's no harm in it) rather than, for example, having to assess everyone's likelihood of developing problems from sitting on the floor, each day.

as for the other things i can't really comment but the worst one i found was not being able to have a drink (glass of water) when i wanted. they provided approx 200ml 6x a day (and you could get 2 extra drinks if dietician approved) but i think if you're thirsty and want a drink you should be allowed to have one, even if the only option is water. having said that - i made a big fuss about this in my head at the time but the benefits of being in somewhere getting help outweighed having to abide by rules you don't like. i actually wish i'd spoken to someone properly about the water thing (i said nothing).
The water thing there are reasons for.



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Old 27-01-2012, 08:13 PM   #51
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One of the wards I was in would only let me have three pens or pencils unsupervised. I could never figure this out. What can you do with four pens that you can't do with one/two/three?
That is random! They stopped me having pens, it absolutely infuriated me because I hadn't done anything to harm myself with the pen and writing was my way of coping.

It's very difficult. Some rules, sometimes seem to be taken too far. Ultimately though, however much I've hated the rules, I try and think that they are doing it for the best, even if sometimes they do go too far. I guess there are good nurses and not so good nurses, perhaps that is the sticking point.

Also, noticed a lot of the comments about lack of care especially physically and I experienced the same, it was awful. When I had gall stones and an infection with it, they didn't bother to treat me and eventually I had to self discharge and promptly was readmitted to the general side for morphine & strong anti biotics.

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Old 28-01-2012, 12:18 PM   #52
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it seems that if you are in psych wards, the nurses automatically think you are making up physical problems, or its down to anxiety or something.

my friend almost died from appendicitis when she was in a psych hospital, another lady ended up needing an operation on a broken leg which she wouldnt have needed if they had believed her in the first place.

fair enough, some people do make it up, or think they are experiencing something which they are not, but surely its better safe than sorry?
i admit it must have been difficult for staff at the forensic medium hospital, because they were always short staffed and you needed at least 2 of them to escort to hospital, but you know, could potentially be life and death.

sorry, that turned out to be a longer rant than i intended....



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Old 28-01-2012, 12:23 PM   #53
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Understaffed hospitals are no good, but sadly it's a widespread problem.



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today i think there are 4 staff to 19-20 patients.

sometimes it just gets ridiculous, especially when there are people who are unable to feed themselves etc
this applies to both psych and general.

it actually makes me quite angry, because then you get overworked and stressed nurses, which can sometimes reflect on the care they give



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Old 28-01-2012, 02:15 PM   #55
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^ *agrees*



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Old 28-01-2012, 02:49 PM   #57
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When I was on the PICU, there was a 1:1 ratio of staff to patients, actually sometimes there were more staff than patients. The staff there were fantastic and a lot more jolly than the understaffed wards I've been on.



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it seems that if you are in psych wards, the nurses automatically think you are making up physical problems, or its down to anxiety or something.
Yeah like the time when I started with really bad stomach ache, I was told to lie down. It wasnt until I started vomiting, that they took some action.

Turned out to be norovirus, caught from another ward that I had been in 24 hours, because I had a bad reaction to a prescribed medication that warranted a trip to A&E.

That was the worst few days of my life, and the nurses comments didnt help either.




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When I was on the PICU, there was a 1:1 ratio of staff to patients, actually sometimes there were more staff than patients. The staff there were fantastic and a lot more jolly than the understaffed wards I've been on.
i also found the PICU better staffed, and nicer as well, i think its probably because of the type of unit it is.



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Old 28-01-2012, 07:24 PM   #60
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i also found the PICU better staffed, and nicer as well, i think its probably because of the type of unit it is.
Is it possible that the staff are better trained too?

I got a lot more respect on the PICU than the acute ward. Although the psychiatrist that was on the acute ward was pretty good, but that acute ward (for the London borough of Merton) has been shut down now. Last time I was on an acute ward, it was another one and the only nurse I can say that I found helpful was the one that had training in Asperger's (and she did that training by personal choice).

I found that the nurses that knew me from my numerous admissions were generally a bit nicer than the nurses that didn't know me though.

The consultant psychiatrist on the now closed acute ward actually works for Wimbledon CMHT now in the same hospital as my CMHT (Morden) so I might come across him one day.



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