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Old 04-06-2013, 02:48 AM   #381
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Just wanted to add my two cents to this, as I've had the make-up for a few months now and I think my experience is a bit more up-to-date. You don't go through the Red Cross any more, for example - it's through Changing Faces. Having said that, I got the impression that this is an administrative change more than a practical one - the staff and even the clinics don't seem to have changed all that much. I still went to a Red Cross office for my appointment.

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I've done the red cross route (In UK) before, The appointment it's self was a scary but the staff were tactful & kind (more so that the GP that I asked to refer me).

I had my appointment with a softly-spoken older Geordie woman who didn't flinch when she saw my scars - I took my cardi off while she was out of the room because I was too nervous to do a "Ta-Da!"-type reveal, and when she sat down again she simply asked "And what can I do for you?". She tried to chat a bit about uni and stuff and didn't push me when I wasn't being very talkative, instead nattering about her grandchildren and the problems with keeping the clinic going when no-one locally was trained to do the work. She did seem to recognise how I'd got the scars, and asked whether my family was supportive, etc, but again, didn't push things. She also recommended some silicon gel that had helped with her breast cancer scars (dermatix). With the make-up itself, she let me decide whether I was going to let her apply it or whether I wanted to do it myself. There was a small mirror on the desk and a full-length one in the room with us that I think she'd brought with her, so I could check how happy I was with the colours.

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The actual stuff they give you is the same Derma Blend concealer people have mentioned a Lot already.

Pro Points about Derma Blend /Vicky Labratories
-Through Red Cross you get it free
- Now available in the larger Boots stores in UK inlcu Scotland (Called Derma Blend /Vicky Labs)
- Hypo-allergenic/safe for sensitive skin & does seem to stick to scars
I don't know if things have changed, but the rule now seems to be that you can get it on prescription. If you're a student or whatever and your prescriptions are free, then the make-up is free. If you pay for prescriptions, you pay for the make-up, although it's still much cheaper than just buying it.

On the last point... I've found that for my newer, raised scars the make-up is less adherent than it is for normal skin. It still covers them, but it wears off faster, and gets stuck in the ridges/flaky bits of healing scars. That might just be me, though.

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- Redcross process can be very slow So I never did it again but it was useful to find tone so didn't waist money buying the wrong one & when I did it it was then only available online or via US sights
-They are expensive (£20 a stick)
-This is not a solution for covering large areas it just doesn't look natural enough especially if like alot of people you have ladders of scars and normal skin in-between (you would also get through too much of it & it would take ages to apply)
-It's not waterproof really don't believe them when they say you can swim in it or have it still on for day two.
It is slow - I got told three months from referral but it ended up being upwards of six. It's not something you can really apply for at the start of summer hoping to be able to get your arms out straight away, unfortunately. But for me it was a decent long-term goal when I was trying to stop, as they don't let you go with open cuts. So I'd recommend using it that way.

Again, it's expensive to buy but you can get it on prescription if you go through Changing Faces.

Agree about it not not looking natural on large areas - it's just too heavy, sadly. Although one thing I'e noticed is that I am more picky about it because I know it's there. If I apply it to most of my forearm (sparsely-scarred, but they're red and raised), then I'm acutely aware that it looks a bit fake and that you can still see scars. But if I'm just gesticulating like normal, the people I'm with don't give me a second glance because they're not looking for it.

Agree that it's shower/splash-proof rather than waterproof. And it will rub off on clothes - it won't survive you repeatedly rolling up your sleeves or resting a made-up forearm on a desk.

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Great to own a sick for covering up the specific scars (or face/neck scars) or to hide & make red/purple scars less obvious. Also consider RedX for finding your skin tone (though remember if your skin tans then it will no longer match).
But If SI & Scars are something you hide Derma isn't good enough to keep your secret & it's not practilce for large areas/whole arms/thighs.
(PS*One thing you could do if you do RedX is at the appointment ask for an insider way to get a refreshed prescription for when it runs out so you don't have to start back at step 1 asking the GP for a referral that might make it quicker to get more for free so you don't have to buy it, I didn't have the energy to do it all again when I don't use it much as just wear LSleeves). Hope this helps people know more about Derma & Red Cross. X
My GP let me put the make-up on repeat prescription, so I'm not sure why you're worried about having to get a repeat referral. Did they not talk about prescriptions with you?

So yeah... that's my experience with it. I'm glad I got it because it allows me to go incognito and feel more secure in situations where I'm not the focus of attention, but it's not the magic wand I was hoping for.





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Old 04-06-2013, 05:54 PM   #382
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My GP let me put the make-up on repeat prescription, so I'm not sure why you're worried about having to get a repeat referral. Did they not talk about prescriptions with you?
Hey, It's definitely interesting to hear your perspective of the process & I agree with you're further comments about it too (ie; splash proof & sticks less well on newer scars),

Yes you're right I got mine for free on prescription that one time;
I heard about Red Cross giving the cover-up on prescription for people who had SI scars and decided like you I would see how good it was & try it out but then found out I needed a referral from a GP. I'd never actually had any treatment so I literally arranged an ordinary GP consult, walked in, sat down & said I had scars from SI & wanted a referral for the Red Cross. The GP was brisk and scoffed about time wasters and then gave me a luckily brief lecture saying she didn't realise people had to be referred but when I said I definitely did need to be she did agree to e-mail RedX & give them my post address so they could contact me, As I say she wasn't friendly but she also didn't demand me to show her my scars which was good & I left within about 4mins.

I got a letter from RedCross quickly after the gp appointment saying I was on a waiting list but it was a couple months + before I got an appointment booked; I actually had my appointment in a private room in a hospital where two red cross workers came in for the visit rather then in an actual red cross Centre (I'm in Edinburgh - Scotland).

I was very nervous about the actual appointment (especially after the GP being unfriendly) but they were excellent! They were very tactful/sensitive & also kind. They didn't blink/hesitate at the scars & didn't pry me with questions apart from relevant ones about my skins reactions & about the make up & ordinary chatter. It was the RedX who organised for me to pick up the prescription & I didn't think far enough ahead to ask during my appointment about how I would get more until it was too late. I don't have a way to contact the RedX people directly & I don't have the energy to start back by going to the GP again when I don't really use it much as I just wear L Sleeves. In my PS I was attempting to suggest people find a more direct route so they don't end up like I did & presumably just asking for a repeat prescription (as you say) might work if people don't have a regular doctor/GP like I didn't but don't wear LSleeves so will have more use for it & want more of it so would benifit for the free prescrition. X

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Old 04-06-2013, 08:43 PM   #383
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I normally don't cover them up, (nobody has asked about them recently, and if they do, i have a few explanations (read as: lies) ranging from reasonable (I didnt like wearing safety gear when working with concertina wire) to over the top).
The main issue is not wanting my family to see, when i know that those excuses wont be believed.



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Old 05-06-2013, 01:05 AM   #384
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I just don't bother anymore. At the end of the day, if people don't like it they can man up and suck it up. It's my life. I won't let other people dictate what I should wear and do. Why should I?




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Old 14-07-2013, 01:48 PM   #385
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Hi, I'm new here so I'm sorry if I posted this in the wrong place, but this is the most suitable thread I have found so far. I'm also not sure if people still post on this thread, but it's worth a try I guess.

I'm starting a new school in 1 and a half months and while I'm happy to be going, I'm really worried about what I'm going to do with my scars as in this school I will have to change for Games and I will also be doing PE in the swimming pool. I have scars mostly on my arm.

I checked the uniform and I can't wear my rash vest in the pool, so my arm will be on show and I don't know how I'm going to change for Games and PE without people seeing my arm. I'm not sure what sleeves my Games kit has either.

So my question is, does anyone have any ideas on hiding scars while changing/ in the swimming pool? I can't let anyone notice because the school will have to tell my parents and I can't let that happen.

I'm sorry for the length of this, I just don't know what I'm going to do.

Thanks to everyone in advance :)

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Old 14-07-2013, 03:07 PM   #386
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I used to change in the changing room toilets, citing that I felt too self-conscious to change in front of people. It wasn't a lie; it was just that I felt self-conscious for slightly different reasons than people thought.

I'm not sure about swimming though, I'm afraid. I hope you get some ideas on that. *hug*



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Old 26-01-2014, 11:02 PM   #387
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Hi.
Has anyone got any advice on how to cover up shoulders (on a man)? Currently I just keep on putting giant plasters on them, but people always notice and ask questions :/. Currently not a soul knows that I cut, and it's becoming more of a problem because I have to take my shirt off for physio, changing in public and for swimming.

Any suggestions are very much appreciated :)

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Old 27-01-2014, 12:24 AM   #388
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If you bandage them up amd saying you had a really bad fall.. You can use makeup but if you are swimming its kinda hard... Unless you find water proof conclerer... Other than that you can make them heal better/faster by cleaning and using bio oil or scar stuff (i use cocoa butter) or you can swim with a shirt on?

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Old 27-01-2014, 12:32 AM   #389
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There's not really anything more you can do as a man or a women except wear 3/4 or full length sleeves and that's all you can ever do with cuts or scars as scar treatments are still mostly ineffective and expensive.

That's the blunt reality of it I really do urge you now (as you realize this problem) to go seek help and try & stop ASAP. The cuts become scars and the scars really and truly are there for life. If you can get help now and stop before you're all marked up something you will always have to explain and live.

I do realize that it's a lot easier to say that or even want to do that then actually do get help. But you future self would be very grateful for it if you did manage it.

Good Luck

the only other suggestion I can give is the upper arm bandages/sweat bands guys sometimes wear (statement) or an ordinary support bandage you could say you pulled something and the area is still weak and hurts sometimes/needs pressure applied.

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Old 29-01-2014, 09:17 PM   #390
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Thank you both for your help, I really am grateful for your time :)

I've ordered some concealer for when I have to get undressed, and I think I will bandage up my shoulder when I have to go swimming, hopefully it won't unravel in the water. If it does, I'll definitely try it with a shirt on.

As for stopping, I don't know who I'd go to and I don't want to waste anyone's time or make them think differently of me :/ I've tried everything I can think of as an alternative, but whatever I try none of it gives the kind of relief and state of calm that I get when I SH.anyways, I'd rather not discuss reasons on his forum, it's not the right place, but I appreciate your counsel :)

Thank you all xx

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Old 02-02-2014, 10:26 PM   #391
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One thing is that they have waterproof bandaids and they work really well for me in the summer when I have to swim with friends and stuff.
And for stopping it is really helpful to tell someone, trust me you won't be wasting anyones time. Go to a teacher or school councelor or one of your parents :) Its really hard, but recieving help does help a lot. :)

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Old 03-07-2014, 07:03 AM   #393
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hi, read through pages... getting late.. i am thinking about trying out a martial artist look with the bandages up the forearm.. i've tried googleing it and got nothing.. the closest i got was Kote... but that wasn't it either

also advice on scars in the work place? my last job rumors started going around about me being some psychopath and shooting up the place to cannablism... and i'm planning on job hunting tomorrow afternoon

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Old 04-07-2014, 03:09 AM   #394
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vitamin e oil works as a cheap scar remover/fader. just thought I'd throw that out there. :)



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Old 17-07-2014, 06:54 PM   #395
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How are people coping with the heat?
I have scars pretty much everywhere, and Im using tights to sort of hide the scars on my legs, but with this current heat, I really just want to roll my sleeves up, but I just havent got the confidence.
I was on the bus today and was so hot I moved my sleeve so you could see my wrist and I felt like the whole world was staring at me :(
Ive seen people around in the town I live in with self harm scars, but more "younger" people, and I just wonder how they manage to not care.

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Old 21-07-2014, 07:08 AM   #397
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I went out for the first time this summer exposing my scars to the world and yes sometimes I felt embarrassed and like people were staring at me and I wanted to just be able to hide it all but I couldn't. At the end of the day the best advice I can give is have confidence. Our scars are part of us and show us the struggles we have been through and overcome. Be proud of your body and odds are no one will mention your cuts and scars.



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