Totally against having an abortion if the child is going to be disabled. That is just not a good enough reason. The chances are you'll find out quite late on and it won't be for certain anyway. I know a disabled child is hard work (my little cousin has severe autism and know someone with MS) but it can be just as rewarding, if not more so, than a perfectly healthy child.
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People who would keep the baby no matter if it's disabled or not...
What are your opinions on those who know they are carrying genetic diseases and so opt for IVF and only implant foetuses that don't have the disease?
No, no, no! This is something that irritates me beyond all comprehension. There is no guarantee that the child will have the disease for a start. It also just smacks of the world wanting to have perfect people and have all disease eradicated. There is a place in the world for disease and disability and we should just learn to accept that.
in short, no.
becuase 1, these test are NEVER 100% conclusive.
and 2, i sjut, coudlnt. that who i am i guess. the only tiem i would condier abortion is if continuting with the pregnancy woudl kill me, and even them i'm not sure.
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What are your opinions on those who know they are carrying genetic diseases and so opt for IVF and only implant foetuses that don't have the disease?
to me, it depends what happens to the other foestus. i dotn liek the idea of them beign destroyed. but, luckily i have no condition like that, and so i cant really understnad how hard that chocie owuld be, so i dotn fele able to comment validly.
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^ I kind of see your point there, but what is so wrong with trying to wipe out disease?
Population pressure on the planet mainly. Think about how overpopulated the Earth is at the moment, and now think about it if people never, or rarely, died of disease (take all cancers and HIV/AIDS as good indicators). The planet could not cope. I study development and rapid population rise is a real problem. Countries in sub-Saharan Africa and Asia are low-income and undeveloped largely because they cannot feed their populations.
There is also evolution. If we become so reliant on drugs and other technologies to cure disease then fewer will develop natural immunity.
i agree with that from a practical point of view, it really does make a lot of sense.
From a more personal, compassionate level I would still be more inclined to wipe out disease in order to wipe out pain and suffering.
Personally, I would.
I don't agree with abortion BUT I don't think I would be able to raise a disabled child properly enough to give it a good quality of life. It may sound selfish, but I wouldn't be able to cope emotionally with having to devote all of my time to one person, be it child or partner.
"From seeing the worst to loving the strongest; People grow over time."
I would want to keep the baby, but I'd be questioning whether I could give the child a happy and fulfilled life. My friend has Asperger's Syndrome and her mother recently told her that if she'd have known that Rachel would have the disability, she would have had an abortion. This sounds cruel, but to be honest I can see what her mum means. Living with AS means that you can't communicate very well, are socially isolated and because of this maybe you can't get a job. So, I do understand.
My cousin Emma has Cerebal Palsy but she lives a good life. She's married and she has a support worker and a carer who takes her out every so often. Her husband Cameron is very, very supportive and he loves her so much, despite her disability. Emma's parents knew that she had a disability before she was born, because the doctor's told them, but they still decided that they didn't want to have an abortion.
So, if you see what I mean, I am divided but to be honest it would depend on the type of disability the baby had. If they had AS or Down's, I'd probably consider abortion but not do it and let the child live.
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I wouldn't do it. Simply becasue I don't think I would be able to. I had a friend who's partner wanted her to abort becasue the test came back and said the baby was going to have downs... and she wouldn't abort and the baby was fine! So I would never.
Sometimes I wish we could abort the mothers though and keep the babies >.< I'm not being harsh btw... i've just seen so many drug dependant babies and children wth foetal alcohol syndrome... It's so sad. Some people should never be allowed to reproduce >.<
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My mum kept my brother and she was told that he'd have a severe disability, wouldn't be able to walk/talk, etc.
But he's fine and as healthy as can be. (apart from y'know, being a boy and a teenager xD)
So my mum obviously made her choice.
I'm never having kids, so I doubt I'd be in this situation. However, if I was, I know that if they were going to be a living vegetable, I would abort, for their sake, not mine.
I have three children with learning disabilities, mental heath ( ADHD, ASD, OCD and Tourettes) and also health problems ( diabetis and epilepsy) between them ..i dont know what it is like to have a child without. I love them all to bits and wouldn't be without them. I would LOVE their lives to be easier but they all know that they are loved which is the most important thing. I would not have had a temination but couldn't judge anyone else for doing so :( ..We are all different and can cope with different things.
I do agree with the above statement :)
As said before, it would depend on the disability, like if they had to be on a machine for the rest of their life, I probably would. For their sake as well as my own.
There is a difference between imperfections and something like infantile Tay-Sachs disease which kills 100% of the suffers in a very very painful/miserable way.
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Very tough question and honestly I don't know what I would do if I was in that situation. I'd like to think I would keep the baby no matter what was wrong with it but I think it would depend on the disability and the quality of life I thought that baby could have. But that's a really hard thing to decide as how can you tell what the quality of life would be? If I found out the baby would suffer a lot after it is born I would think about abortion and for things like conjoined twins I probably would as I wouldn't want to put the baby through so much pain and trauma for the time that it is alive.
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