In true sitting-on-the-fence fashion, I don't care either way. If he does exist, then good for him, but if not then I'm at ease with the idea of having nothing to deal with after death.
Ahh ok, so it's relatively safe. Just can't say things like "God will solve all your problems!" lol
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I don't..
But I would like to.. I've cried many times that I wanna believe there is a God or gods..
I just haven't be able..
Now I don't really care anymore that much about that.. Sometimes I still dream I would have someone who would know me and who I would be able to talk about everything..
Someone whom to really trust!
This is an interesting one for me cos its something I’m really struggling with at the moment.
I used to believe in God, some would say i had like a lightning conviction, when I was 17 I started to SH, and at that time a lot of stuff happened in my life i was very suicidal and despite my best efforts did not succeed, and I said not to any specific God - "what or whoever you are, if you wont let me die then have my life, cos I don’t want it."
and i recovered slowly from everything, i was so happy i got married and was free of SH till, about 2 years ago, when i found out my husband was cheating on me, there was still hope till recently, now we are divorced
all through this I believed God would heal my marriage and everything would be ok.... but its not ok.....its so not ok!
So now I’ve learned that there’s a conflict there are 2 options either God doesn’t exist, but like you guys have pointed out its hard to explain loads of stuff then, or he does exist, but cos he gave us free will we can choose to follow him - or not thus he is not all powerful as we overrule him! - does that make sense?
I’m sorry that was a really long answer, just to say - I haven’t got a clue any more!
but cos most of my friends are in the church, you’ll still find me hanging out there pretending everything is normal! :P
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I would so love to believe in God, and a lot of times I've tried to convince myself.
Just won't register.
"Look, from my experience I can tell you that no one is gonna solve your problems for you. You have to deal with your own demons. They're in your head, not anyone elses"
"I like my demons. I consider them close personal friends. In fact, we enjoy each other's company immensely
I believe in God...I don't know if i'd be here if it wasn't for God
A quote from a film...'without suffering there will be no compassion'...its not much comfort when were suffering...but if there was no suffering...we wouldn't necessarily become stronger
I don't believe we should worship God - my arguement for that is below (I'm not trying to offend anyone with it, ignore if you want to).
Whether he exists or not is another matter, one which I haven't made up my mind about.
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Oxford dictionary definition of "God":
n. superhuman being worshipped as having power over nature and human fortunes, deity
either;
1) he has all this power, yet allows sh*t to happen (and we know how bad things can be)
or
2) he cannot do anything about all the bad thigs that happen, and so therefore does not have power over nature/human fortunes and therefore is not a deity.
So - he's either a slightly sadistic God who watches us hurt and doesn't care much to change things, or he isn't god and so we shouldn't worship him.
For those doubts that swirl all around us
For those lives that tear at the seams
We know… we’re not what we’ve seen
For this dance we’ll move with each other
There ain’t no other step than one foot
Right in front of the other
Good thing u edited that debbie cos suckseed just cracked me up!!
I personally don't believe in god because I have no reason to and because I don't really believe in anything anymore. But yeah it really is an interesting debate because I don't think there will ever be any proof either way and everyone is entitled to hope and faith and to me it really doesn't matter wot they choose to believe just as long as at the end of the day they are happy I will be happy for them.
Debbie I have said this countless times before to u, I'm here for u and if it doesn't make u happy, take a break, consider everything and then make a decision over wot u believe cos if u stay in the same position as u are in right now it will just be harder. I know all ur friends are in the church but they will still all be there no matter wot u decide as they are friends and they shouldn't turn u away over wot u might/might not believe in. Just consider a break from church, will probably make u happier and when or if u go back u will be happier than ever and u still will have me.
Although having me might not such a good thing lol.
Basically at the end of the day, religion shouldn't rule wot people think or perceive of other people its just really sad that so many bad things have happened in the world because of religion.
i belive in a god, but not the one in the bible, if that makes any sense. i belive that it (mine had no gender) did give us free will, so therefore cant prevent any suffering we have, but there has to be something after life, otherwise our lives become pointless, at least thats what i hold on to. and as people have said earlier, things all fit together to neatly. i would also like to point out i belive in the darwinian theroy, and dont belive god made the world in 7 days. just that i think it must have had a hand in it, for it to work like this.
i first started beliveing after my nana died, i knew she wasnt gone. she didnt just stop existing, her life, her energy, it had to go somewhere. so i belive she is with god. god made the world (not in 7 days!) and let it run its course. it provides us with some comfert if we wish to seek it in this way, like someone who will listen to you and your problems. they may not be able to do anything about them, but they will listen.
this is jsut how I feel, i would consider myself christian, but not in any of the groups i.e. protestant and catholic.
a random quote i saw on the main page 'we have known darkness, so can appreciate the light'. we have to go through bad things so we aprecieate when we are happy.
this si the most ive ever thougth about my belifs actually, to have to put them down on papar, so to speak.
"I would be almighty in my own world of art, even if I had to paint my pictures with my wet tongue on the dusty floor of my cell." -Picasso
"No, painting is not done to decorate apartments. It is an instrument of war." - Picasso
'I have scars becuase I have a past; but they, like my past, do not define my future'
No.
I can't help but think god was just made up to give people faith, to have something to believe in.
tbh, i don't really like any kind of religion what so ever.
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