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Old 20-10-2013, 05:25 PM   #21
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You got to wonder how some of this comes into a td things the paremedics say not very professional ..





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Old 20-10-2013, 06:47 PM   #22
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That is somewhat assumptive.
The consent part?

I don't think so. I'm not saying they are idiots or have low IQ, I'm saying if you've just overdosed or cut yourself you will be experiencing considerable mental distress, and in that moment how can you possibly begin to think about whether you want to be filmed and the impact it may have on your life?

Even if 99% of the time they are functioning fine, in that one moment of distress you can't presume they have full capacity and I think it is unethical to just shove a camera in their face because it makes good television.



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Old 20-10-2013, 07:56 PM   #23
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Oh my goodness. Just watched it. I don't understand why they would show that? And why nobody stopped him. Awful. And I don't think there was adequate warning (at least in the online program) that there would be active self harm.



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I watched it online and there was a pop up thing that said 'this contains scenes of self harm, click to agree to terms and conditions.'




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Oh my goodness. Just watched it. I don't understand why they would show that? And why nobody stopped him. Awful. And I don't think there was adequate warning (at least in the online program) that there would be active self harm.
Nobody stopped him?!
I didn't watch it so have no idea.
That just seems....agh!

If you did that in the presence of nurses in a psych ward you'd have about 20 of them on top of you in a split second!

Yeah, that's pretty awful.

Things people do for viewers these days



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Old 20-10-2013, 09:01 PM   #26
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It was just him and the documentary staff, after he'd been in A&E catching up with him, and they just filmed it.



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oh this weeks one is focusing on mental health.. We wonder whats gonna happen this week!!





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Old 20-10-2013, 10:46 PM   #28
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oh this weeks one is focusing on mental health.. We wonder whats gonna happen this week!!
They will probs do something completely unrelated to the subject no doubt! lol!



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Old 21-10-2013, 04:35 PM   #29
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From the introduction sequence you can see a person threatening to jump off a roof, and another person overdosing on pills.

So two more examples of distressed, vulnerable people with a camera thrust in their face.



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Am interested as I know its mental health this week, will see what happens

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Man tries to jump of carpark how can he be in re right frame of mind trigger warning for self harm these people are vunrable alright x





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Omfg man overdosing been called stupid that's not self harm that's overdosing they should not just film an allow that we're the ethnical moral





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If it was the police they would stop you and is it not bad that we can be told we are not crazy enough for help





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Old 21-10-2013, 09:52 PM   #34
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Most disturbing thing is kings cross station man under a train guess I know now it does not kill you x





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^They said 'don't be stupid' not 'you are stupid'.
I think it's the same as saying 'Don't do anything stupid' like they said to the guy on the carpark. I wouldn't see it as too bad.
I'm more interested in why they didn't physically try and stop him (Any paramedics able to clarify?)
I've been told by paramedics before (when legging it from A&E) that they are not allowed to physically stop you doing anything.
At the time I was very high risk and I won't bore anyone with the details, but the paramedics that were with me could not physically stop me, they had to get the police to do it.



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I decided to stop watching it because I was unhappy with the way this weeks episode was done and the positions they filmed people in. If it's offending you, vote with the remote. If viewing figures fall, they will rethink their filming strategy.

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They should not show the peoples identities it could cause them problems when they are well





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Old 21-10-2013, 10:49 PM   #38
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I completely agree with that. It concerns me that although at the moment they may not mind being filmed/it being showed on TV, that in the future there could be repercussions.

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Old 21-10-2013, 11:43 PM   #39
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Paramedics are not allowed to restrain people, hence why they could not stop the guy from taking the overdose. If they touched him they could have got in trouble for assault had he made a complaint.

I have mixed views on this series. I think they are trying to show mental health and what it actually causes people to feel, and to also show the impact it has on the emergency services.
Don't think it's been tastefully done in some ways though I don't believe that to be the paramedics fault.

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Old 21-10-2013, 11:50 PM   #40
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didn't manage to watch all of it just last half but i was prepared this week for whatever scene so that was fine but my grumble this time: lol!
Is actually the paramedics attitudes on the programme tbh,yes I can only imagine what it must be like to have tons of call outs attending to people who are suicidal in one shift but it was just the way one of them goes oh its someone under a train come on then-but in the joyous tone of voice like hes going to be watching some sort've exciting horror film or the woman paramedic whos like oh just kill me now-
Ok i get it,I get that when you do a job like that you have to have a sense of humour to get through it all I know this because of the job I used to do-you almost become blase about things but I was quite uncomfortable with the fact they were quite happy to show this attitude on T.V and that oh I dunno what I'm trying to say but I think ultimately what I think is that paramedics like one of them said need more mental health training because they are ultimately the first ones on a scene of a crisis and if that attitude came across to the patient worst case scenerio it could have potentially serious consequences thats just my thoughts this week!



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