There is a thread called 'if you are feeling suicidal post here'
personally, this thread makes me uncomfortable as it seems to.. trivialise what is such an extreme emotion.
I can understand people posting daily on a bpd thread, they are living with an illness every day. I find it sad though when members are posting on this 'feeling suicidal' thread daily.
hm. i dont know.
anywho Katy, thread was about illness threads, not your uni thread, never fear!
There is a thread called 'if you are feeling suicidal post here'
personally, this thread makes me uncomfortable as it seems to.. trivialise what is such an extreme emotion.
This is the thread I was talking about, when I am feeling that way, I tend to find I go into it to self destruct more. So it is more of a hinderence than a help.
Can we have a poll on these sorts of threads please? I think it needs one!
trololol.. i for one would be amused by such a thread i think.
'today i harmed myself... no tip sharing but it involved three sausages and a roll of sticky tape'
Oh my Godric, I just laughed so hard.
The 'if you are suicidal' thread makes me feel uncomfortable, though I can't judge because I've never opened the thread even. I just can't see how it wouldn't be detrimental, but as I said, I have no right to judge on that one.
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Yes i agree the depression and suicide ones are the ones that are to much and are not needed. That where the line has to be drawn when its excessive. There are many other areas that you can post about deppression but i dont feel we need a thread created for it. I think its excessive.
It also gets excessive when there are far to many dotted about. I understand it can be helpful but other people may feel left out or that they just dont fit. I think there are alot of people who feel they dont fit in but by making all these different thread you will end up making the sitiuation worse. I think its important to keep a balance.
I think threads specific to individual illnesses are probably more useful than detrimental. It offers a handy location for people to trade information (for example, offer links to research articles, or discuss potential useful tools, professional or otherwise) as well as an increased sense of community that can really help.
I'm part of a specific PTSD forum, and have found it more useful than I ever thought I would. I find I both give and receive better advice when I'm dealing with a community which understands exactly what I'm saying.
Basically, it's more expedient to come into a community and be able to ask a question without having to explain extensively first, the way I often end up doing to peers offline. I can see why some would feel a specific thread is isolating, but I think what's going on is simply that those who share a common illness have greater facility working with it. For what it's worth, I've never been made to feel unwelcome anywhere (though admittedly I don't post much).
I'm being nit-picky now, but I thought of one possible negative about the BPD thread. However, I don't think it's an issue at the moment, just that it has been in the past, and members have worked hard to try and find a solution within the thread. That is, that, at times in the past, there has been an issue of people coming into the thread and not offering mutual support; rather, just expecting it repeatedly. As a result, some people can fall into the role of becoming 'supporter'. I'm not saying that people always have to feel duty-bound to offer support if they're not up to it, just that, for the thread to run successfully and for people to feel safe, there needs to be some give-and-take. Like I said, though, that's an issue that members have dealt with very thoughtfully, and things seem to be running well at the moment.
Obviously I can't speak for those on the BPD, DID or various ED threads, but a while ago I frequented the Mood Disorder thread (oops, that almost came out as 'Mod Disorder'. Rest assured, I have no problem with all you lovely Mod-type people!!) and it really did help. Far from trivialising my depression, it helped being with people in the same boat. The supportive replies on the 'If you are feeling suicidal, post here' have sometimes been what I've needed to pull me back from the brink. Perhaps that particular thread may be due a slight name change, but other than that I see no problem :) As you were, RYLers :P
I think having separate threads for specific illnesses is a good idea as it clearly allows many members to be able to share their experiences, thoughts and opinions but for me personally (and I REALLY don't mean to offend anyone here!!!) I find it difficult to just pop into a thread and ask for advice from people who seem to have formed a strong relationship already because I feel like I am intruding and well like I don't really belong there. Don't get me wrong I'm sure most people would be more then welcoming, the people on this sight really do support and encourage one another but I don't know... sometimes it's difficult to admit to yourself that this is your problem so by being a part of a specific thread is like admitting that you are in fact suffering with this.
Sorry for the rant I probably make no sense and I can completely see that this is my own problem because I'm in denial and being to pathetic to admit to myself and other people that 'this' is who I am. x
Firstly, the if you are feeling suicidal thread has bugged me right from the start, as I think it's really dangerous. In my opinion, people who are genuinely actively suicidal need to be in contact with a crisis team, and if they are going to seek support here, a thread of their own seems more appropriate. I've hopped into that thread before to try to give support, but replying to ten posts in a row, all with minimal information about the individual's situation, makes it very hard to say anything meaningful. I really don't think it's a good place to receive support, meaning it is essentially just a pit of woe.
I've recently joined the BPD thread, and I think it's good, though I can see Animad's point about the dangers of self-diagnosing, especially with BPD, which is made a million times worse by non-PD-specialist-psychiatrists diagnosing the whole world and his dog with it. I dunno, this really isn't a criticism of the BPD thread, as I really like it, it's just a concern I have in general.
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Originally Posted by squirrelspit
'today i harmed myself... no tip sharing but it involved three sausages and a roll of sticky tape'
I'm being nit-picky now, but I thought of one possible negative about the BPD thread. However, I don't think it's an issue at the moment, just that it has been in the past, and members have worked hard to try and find a solution within the thread. That is, that, at times in the past, there has been an issue of people coming into the thread and not offering mutual support; rather, just expecting it repeatedly. As a result, some people can fall into the role of becoming 'supporter'. I'm not saying that people always have to feel duty-bound to offer support if they're not up to it, just that, for the thread to run successfully and for people to feel safe, there needs to be some give-and-take. Like I said, though, that's an issue that members have dealt with very thoughtfully, and things seem to be running well at the moment.
Sorry if I was being a bit picky.
I have to agree i think most specific threads face that issues, i do remember for such a long time the bpd thread did sorta just become a depressed fest, where people would just post "im feeling suicidal", and the whole just asking for support. Obviously when threads turn into that its not helpful for anyone, and we managed to changed that round, but threads need to be carful of that, because i dont feel everyone posting negative things helps anyone.
And jenna i get annoyed when people do post OMG i read about bpd therefore i have it, but i do think people post the right thing by saying go to your doctor.
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^I agree with everything Mari said!
And we had a similar problem with excess woe on the uni thread for a while, and actually nicked Mari's post about asking for and giving support to spam the uni thread with for a bit, and it worked quite nicely. As long as the 'usuals' on a thread can sense the thread going a bit skew-wiff and steer it back, life is good :)
Firstly, the if you are feeling suicidal thread has bugged me right from the start, as I think it's really dangerous. In my opinion, people who are genuinely actively suicidal need to be in contact with a crisis team, and if they are going to seek support here, a thread of their own seems more appropriate. I've hopped into that thread before to try to give support, but replying to ten posts in a row, all with minimal information about the individual's situation, makes it very hard to say anything meaningful. I really don't think it's a good place to receive support, meaning it is essentially just a pit of woe.
As a very frequent poster in the 'are you feeling suicidal thread' I would have to disagree with what your saying.
I understand your point about them needing to seek the help of professionals, specifically crisis teams and the such and we encourage all the time. It is the first thing that we say to anyone new to the thread and what we continually suggest.
People can come into the thread once or stop around for a while- when in there we discuss what is making them feel suicidal, ways that they could seek help, what help they are currently receiving, if anything has triggered the feelings in particular and we really help each other to keep motivated to fight.
Believe me when I say that we are not trivialising the subject of suicide in any way and if you were to come into the thread for longer than two seconds you would know this. It is far from a pit of woe, but sometimes people just need to verbalise what is going on in their heads without the requirement of answering a hundred questions about their current situation in a thread of their own. A thread of your own can often make things feel worse. Imagine being actively suicidal and no one responds to your thread. Its happened and will happen again. Its like a kick in the teeth sometimes.
It can be frustrating when there is nothing you can say to someone. On occation people do just post some woe, but its rare. But this is certainly usually a place where *hugs* are well received. We try to keep the room as positive as possible given the subject and everyone that posts knows that people are struggling so have an understanding.
Sometimes people just need to hear that others are feeling the same way, that there is somewhere to go to talk about a call with the crisis team or just somewhere to go where people don't think they are attention seeking. Because even if they are seeking attention, that is good thing. The thread is full of people fighting their corner with them. Trying to give them ideas or distractions. The motivation to seek help. The hope to carry on.
Whilst people are posting in that thread, they are not killing themselves and that is a good a reason to have a thread as any other.
Last edited by getting_by : 16-01-2012 at 10:51 PM.
Here's the day you hoped would never come,
Don't feed me violins, just run with me
through rows of speeding cars.
21 on the run, on the run, on the run
From myself, from myself and everyone
I better leave the light on
The darkness, The sweetness, The sadness, The weakness,
O, I need this
Hi, I'm Roli Take Care, Stay Safe, Shout if you need anything
People can come into the thread once or stop around for a while- when in there we discuss what is making them feel suicidal, ways that they could seek help, what help they are currently receiving, if anything has triggered the feelings in particular and we really help each other to keep motivated to fight.
A thread of your own can often make things feel worse. Imagine being actively suicidal and no one responds to your thread. Its happened and will happen again. Its like a kick in the teeth sometimes.
Whilst people are posting in that thread, they are not killing themselves and that is a good a reason to have a thread as any other.
I have to say that I don't understand why that is any different to an individual thread. A person can be ignored/not answered on both, when writing their own threads they aren't killing themselves, and a thread can provide a lot more detail about the situation and personalised support than a single post.
Surely if you can post a reply in one thread, you can do it in others as well?
I have to say that I don't understand why that is any different to an individual thread. A person can be ignored/not answered on both, when writing their own threads they aren't killing themselves, and a thread can provide a lot more detail about the situation and personalised support than a single post.
Surely if you can post a reply in one thread, you can do it in others as well?
You don't have to be as open on the thread. For me personally, I can talk about how I am feeling without declaring in big bold letters in my own thread that I am struggling. I don't have the guts to have my own thread on the subject of me. I find comfort in the thread that means I can express a little of what I am feeling without having to divulge everything surrounding it. I don't know why but it doesn't seem as huge to me personally if someone doesn't reply to me specifically- someone will or will ask how I am or how my day is going.
I know that when writing their own threads they aren't killing themselves, I didn't mean that it was there to replace people having their own threads, but for some, its just another option. Both are helpful. I just know that I wouldn't be able to have my own thread. Sometimes people don't want to divulge a lot of information, I know it makes me feel vulnerable. The information often divulged is that which is needed to try to support the person with trying to get further help.
Of course one can, I'm not saying one can't reply to multiple posts, but this is just another option. Its another way that people can feel supported- I don't see why people should have a problem with it.
Here's the day you hoped would never come,
Don't feed me violins, just run with me
through rows of speeding cars.
21 on the run, on the run, on the run
From myself, from myself and everyone
I better leave the light on
The darkness, The sweetness, The sadness, The weakness,
O, I need this
Hi, I'm Roli Take Care, Stay Safe, Shout if you need anything
There is a thread called 'if you are feeling suicidal post here'
personally, this thread makes me uncomfortable as it seems to.. trivialise what is such an extreme emotion.
I can understand people posting daily on a bpd thread, they are living with an illness every day. I find it sad though when members are posting on this 'feeling suicidal' thread daily.
It is indeed sad that people feel suicidal everyday- but sometimes that is their reality. Just like BPD and depression, this is something they struggle with in their daily lives. It by no means trivialises suicide. But it also acknowledges that suicidal feelings are not fleeting. They can last a long time and increase or decrease in intensity.
There of course are also the people, myself included, who do not feel suicidal, who post in there daily in order to try to offer support, the same way as any other support thread. I just try to offer an ear and a heart to those who feel they don't have anything left to live for. I'm sorry if you feel that trivialises the subject of suicide, but i think it does the opposite.
Here's the day you hoped would never come,
Don't feed me violins, just run with me
through rows of speeding cars.
21 on the run, on the run, on the run
From myself, from myself and everyone
I better leave the light on
The darkness, The sweetness, The sadness, The weakness,
O, I need this
Hi, I'm Roli Take Care, Stay Safe, Shout if you need anything
Take Care, Stay Safe, Shout if you need anything
