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Old 30-12-2011, 07:54 PM   #21
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I think generally, thoughts if they're not acted on, aren't bad in themselves. I think having thoughts of abuse or rape aren't that surprising if you've been through those sorts of things.

I occasionally have thoughts of abuse when I seen a child who is around the age I was when the abuse I experienced began. The thoughts really consist of my memories of abuse, thinking then of the child (who ever it is at the time) followed by 'how the hell could you do something so horrible to someone'. I think naturally sometimes people's experiences can really have an effect on their thoughts.

I think when it develops into a lot of time being spent in methodical planning/excessive fantasising then it could become a problem which might need to be addressed.





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Old 30-12-2011, 10:31 PM   #22
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I must be losing my touch lol. Actually I think we are more alike than you realise - aside from me being older, wiser and better looking.

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Old 31-12-2011, 02:20 PM   #23
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I must be losing my touch lol. Actually I think we are more alike than you realise - aside from me being older, wiser and better looking.

Ok I'm kidding about being wiser
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Old 31-12-2011, 07:01 PM   #24
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It's our nature to think "sinfully". Society uses religion to harness/ subdue our impulses towards violence. Institutionalising morality--what religion does--serves only to contain human nature so that we can live in a less chaotic, progressively better world. I wouldn't call these thoughts sinful, though, because to do that would acknowledge that they are evil. They aren't evil, nor immoral, per se. They may be less civilised, but they're still nature.



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Old 02-01-2012, 03:42 AM   #25
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When you use the word "sinful" are you intending this to be from a religious perspective? Everything Jack has said sums up the Christian viewpoint on this topic. Yes, I do think sometimes thoughts can be sinful but no other human being has the right to police anyone else's thoughts. Usually when I go to confession (which is admittedly not often), I confess that I've had thoughts that I personally felt troubled by. The last time I remember the priest telling me that we all sometimes have thoughts of that nature that seem to come automatically, but that it is in dwelling on them and encouraging our minds to continue such thoughts that we do damage to ourselves. I've heard other people say that dwelling on thoughts of harming others can eventually lead to acting on those thoughts, when the fantasy just isn't enough anymore. For instance, if a pedophile finds him or herself having overpowering fantasies it could lead to viewing child pornography which could lead to actually harming a child. I'm using pedophilia as extreme example, however. Now if I feel like punching someone in the face after that person has been rude to me, I'm very unlikely to sit there and fantasize about it and then make a plan, imaginary or real, to act on that desire.
I feel like I've just been babbling. I'm typing as I think. If people don't believe in the idea of some thoughts being "sinful" then think of them as being unhealthy. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. So, yes and no to your question.

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