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Old 27-08-2009, 11:24 PM   #21
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Oh dear, this reminds me of A level Philosophy, I read too much Sartre and had an existential crisis.

For questions such as these you should read up on philosophical scepticism - it's the idea that turth claims can't be made. David Hume is a well known global sceptic and the early sophists such as Aristotle and Plato began the whole affair. For the argument from dreaming (which is the question you came up with) you need to check out Descartes, he wasn't a sceptic but utilised scepticism in order to prove the sceptics wrong.

There is also empiricism and idealism which are part of the branch of theory of knowledge - how do we know we know things?

The argument from dreaming can be refuted by the argument that dreaming is a tied concept. In other words you can't have "dreaming" without having "awake". Therefore you cannot be dreaming constantly or we would not have "awake" as a state.

That's only in brief just to get the idea across, you'll be able to find better discussions of it online, if you actually care enough to read them.

I guess all you can say is reality is what the majority agrees to. Anything else is an alternate reality.

Philosophy is fascinating but makes you crazy, I swear.



"And yesterday I saw you kissing tiny flowers,
But all that lives is born to die.
And so I say to you that nothing really matters,
And all you do is stand and cry."
- That's The Way by Led Zeppelin

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Old 29-08-2009, 02:43 PM   #22
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Philosophy is fascinating but makes you crazy, I swear.
Agreed.



The Mole was bewitched, entranced, fascinated. By the side of the river he trotted as one trots, when very small, by the side of a man who holds one spell-bound by exciting stories; and when tired at last, he sat on the bank, while the river still chattered on to him, a babbling procession of the best stories in the world, sent from the heart of the earth to be told at last to the insatiable sea.
Wind in the Willows.


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