I didn't think it was Jack. She made me think of the book The Time Travellers Wife (excellent book) where they are together but cause he travels a lot he doesn't know her yet cause he is too young to meet her.
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What book is that? o i want to read it! and that diary book of hers looked like the outside of teh tardis (am i slow to just realise that) so she might be time lord to? i mean the master survied why couldnt aother time lord of survied? i yjought i would throw a wild theroy out their!
i keep thinking about the journal of impossible things' when i think about that book.
and i have a theory.... not very good tho, at first i thought the women was donna because she called him names like 'pretty boy' and she said about the no spoilers rule which the doctor had just said to donna and she looked really shocked when they saw donna's face in the computer thingy. and the womens names is riversong, river song makes me think of the ood with their song and how they would sing about the doctor and donna. and a reason donna's face in the computer could be that donna survives and in the future when she dies for whatever reason donates her face like the guy had becuase of her reaction to it. (just said AND about a million times)
only thing that makes me think its not donna is that it would be a paradox therefore if i understand the paradox thingy (which i dont think i do) some bad would have happened or something like that, not just donna's fae being in the machine.
but i dunno maybe im just thinking too much.
loved that episode tho scared me quite and bit, good old moffat.
ooooooooooh and i heard that this isnt a two parter but a three parter!!!!!! OMG what are we gunna not knowing for three weeks.
'prefer et obdura; dolar hic tibi proderit olim'
be patient and tough; someday this pain will be useful to you
As much as I love Fi's theory I think I have to agree with Sarahs, if it was Jack it would be awesome though. I just don't think it is.
And not to be rude but Donna wouldn't make any sense and neither would his daughter created in this series partly because both of them have seen him younger than he is at that point in time.
I think it has to be someone knew, im not sure who said it, but it very much reminded me of the start of The Time Travellers wife, she knows everything and he knows nothing.
I really loved this episode, my favourite of the series so far, when Miss Evangelista was Ghosting it was quite eerie and sad. Scary to. Can't wait for the next episode.
I want to mention the girl as I am thinking she might be Cal seeing as we havent actually heard her name yet. Also when she collapsed on the floor when the Doctor was sonicing the secuity camera thing the rug she was on had the same symbol on as the security camera and the computer terminals.
So the little girl could be the computer which is so complex that its created another world for her to live in to keep herself entertained mainly because there isnt anything really to be done in the library apart from watch over it (which shes does when she closes her eyes). Though I am probably wrong.
Oh also the idea of professor Riversong being Donna is as absurd as it being Jack or Jenny. She's just a new character *nods* well probably anyhow.
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I think River Song is a future companion, who has some sort of knowledge. I hope we find out soon why she called the doctor when she did though, so far no explination and she didnt even seem to realise it was dangerous *shrugs*
good episode though, cant wait till part 2!!
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That was a really good episode, loving Moffat :D
I'm thinking the woman who keeps saying she knows The Doctor is Captain Jack. I thought he might be in it when The Doctor mentioned they were in the 51st century, which is where Jack is from. I'm not sure about this because some things don't really add up. However, she acts like Jack a lot.
But yeah, in the preview for next week she said they'd been to the End of the Universe, which Jack has. And if it's not him it'd have to be Martha, which isn't the case.
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Yeah, I was considering her being Jack... but but but why did he change into a female? He was (more than) just fine the way he was!
The episode was great, & left me with so many questions which I desperately hope they resolve soon!
Glad Moffat is to be head writer of the next series, x
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he goes from jack to the face of bo, so its not exactly unlikely he could end up a lady at some point haha.
yeah it was wayyy creepy. when that guy got all those things in his helmet.
ahahaha, when i went to the blackpool dr who exhibition i very nearly got a life sized dalek cut out.
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Yeah, that pretty much confirmed the worst for me, Donna is going to die :(
Must accept this >_<
But yes, the Riversong woman being Jack. Here's why I think it.
She acts like Jack a lot the wee kiss in the psychic paper, 'Hello sweetie' saying she's making the other guy wear his helmet because she doesn't fancy him, come on, very Captain Jack making everything a little naughty :P
She talks about how young he looks, and the first time she met him in her personal time line he looked so old, well the first time Jack met The Doctor he was Eccleston, who looks much older than Tennant.
She seems ot really love The Doctor, and in Torchwood Jack would always go all funny like he was heart broken if he was thinking about or maybe making a slight reference to The Doctor.
Here's why she might not be Jack.
She's a woman. How would Jack turn into a woman?
Why would he then go back to the 51st century?
She seems to love The Doctor in a romantic way, like they had been together.
She says he looks younger. Well a lot of the classic Doctors were older than Tennant, she might be someone from The Classic series, returning?
She could be a future companion, when she's going through his journal she asks if they've done all the things he's written in there.
Anyway, she coujld be anyone, I'd absoutely love it if she was Jack, though. But thinking about it it's one of many possibilities.
I love that she's met him and he hasn't met her, it shows how The Doctors time line is so mangled because he's a time traveller and he's met people before they've met him and blah blah blah. It reminds me of in 'Blink' at the end when Polly (?) gives The Doctor the script and says he'll need it, she's met (well sort of) him but he doesn't know her.
That was when The Doctor and Martha were running through the street after a 3 things and a lizard, or something to that nature, which I hoped was a reference to a future episode, and when ti happened we'd all be like "That was in bliiiiiiiink!" but obviously now Marthas gone it's not really going to happen, which is disappointing.
Ah well.
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I liked that episode. I really hope donna isn't dead, she's so funny and her and the doctor just work so well.
I don't think that woman is Jack, when she was going through that book i'm sure she said something about a picnic and i just can't imagine the doctor and Jack having a picnic. I'd say it is either his daughter or a new character.
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Profesor Riversong is definately not Jack, I mean it'd be absurd if she was.
Firstly I think the Doctor would have noticed if she was Jack but a women, and they seem to have some sort of special relationship (in his personal future because he gave her a sonic screwdiver) and I dont think the Doctor would ever be that way with Jack. Also Jack may seem to 'go all lovey' or whatever when he talks about the Doctor but I think Jack just has so much respect and admiration for him because he knows how brilliant the Doctor is.
Also Professor Riversong goes 'your face' meaning she may know him as another regenration of him (a future regenration) also she can't have been with him as his 9th regenration (chris eccleston) because she says how young his eyes look and if she had met him as eccleston his eyes would have been the youngest she'd seen.
So basically she is a new character who is quite fascinating because I want to know how she knows the doctor in all its detail.
I thought the episode was really good, especially the bit about the vashta nerada (sp?) being 'the dust in the sunbeam' that made it more creepy. Now I can't wait until next week to find out how they solve it all.
Sorry if that way too many quotes!
but I really don't agree with the suggestion of her being Jack..... would be an odd twist, but I don't think it would fit. More likely, she's encountered a later incarnation of the doctor.... after he dies again and regenerates..... if it was Jack, he would have recognised him as being the younger doctor and wouldn't have been so suprised.
Also, Donna cannot be dead as she's in the trailer talking to Rose... soooooo
i'll be pretty bummed if its a new character. i don't like it when future things are set or past things are explained. i like knowing nothing about the doctor.
major props for the computer theory being the little girl though, i can totally see that happening.
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So the little girl could be the computer which is so complex that its created another world for her to live in to keep herself entertained mainly because there isnt anything really to be done in the library apart from watch over it (which shes does when she closes her eyes).
Thats so much better than anything I came up with :P
I was thinking that she was the 1000 souls but then we met the statues.
But then the girls doctor knows of the library to which is weird...maybe they aren't on todays earth like we are assuming?
Hmmm all interesting theories and suggestions, I really cant wait till the next episode on Saturday and I cant wait till the finale cos I think I found out all the guest stars that are gonna be in it and its totally gonna be a class episode
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BUT I WILL NEVER FORGET THOSE WHO ARE ALWAYS THERE TO HELP ME
Well orginally episode 9, the one on this Saturday, was going to be called River's Run, but they changed it to Forest of the Dead, probably because River's Run is a **** name for an episode.
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